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Tom is a good dude and a fantastic teacher on top of having phenomenal chops. His podcast (The Guitar Hour Podcast) is worth a listen as well.
He's been pretty open about the challenges of making a living playing guitar and the pitfalls of being a guitar star on social media.
He's been pretty open about the challenges of making a living playing guitar and the pitfalls of being a guitar star on social media.
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As Sascha pointed out it’s likely easier to come to grips with than open tunings or all 5th, or that Gambale tuning he does for chords.
I had a student a decade ago that went that why because of Alex Hutchins. And Stanley Jordan lives there too cause gets a whole lot more similar to piano where everything repeats after the octave in the same patter.
Which some fingerings being a lot harder than another
For example that bottom 4 strings Am7 be the
5 7 5 5 x x
Shape just moved to the next A
X 0 2 0 0 x
X 12 14 12 12 x
X x x 7 9 7 7
Instead of in regular tuning being
5 7 5 5 x x
X 0 2 0 1 x
X 12 14 12 13 x
X X 7 9 8 8
I had a student a decade ago that went that why because of Alex Hutchins. And Stanley Jordan lives there too cause gets a whole lot more similar to piano where everything repeats after the octave in the same patter.
Which some fingerings being a lot harder than another
For example that bottom 4 strings Am7 be the
5 7 5 5 x x
Shape just moved to the next A
X 0 2 0 0 x
X 12 14 12 12 x
X x x 7 9 7 7
Instead of in regular tuning being
5 7 5 5 x x
X 0 2 0 1 x
X 12 14 12 13 x
X X 7 9 8 8
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This.
And it works extremely well, plus, at least that's what it was for me, you can get adjusted quite quickly. But you're losing quite a lot, too.
Also, all of a sudden you will as well realize that the common standard guitar tuning, as weird as it may seem scientifically, wasn't made up (or established) by complete morons, because it's actually allowing for quite some things perfect fourths don't (or would at least make it extremely difficult).
However, as said, in case no-end-single-note-noodling was my primary goal, I'd possibly go for perfect fourths, too.
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There’s sorta something to be said for E, A, D or Em, Am, Dm triads across string sets being the same.
At the very least the fact that most of us memorised them on the d,g,b string set which is counted productive since it we would state with the lowest e,a, d stringset It repeats one string set up 5 frets down or 7 frets up the octave up version.
Then going to the next string. Set d,g,b in regular tuning we still do 5 down or 7 up just have to raise the note that now goes on the b string go up a fret.
And again for the last string set again 5/7 frets down/up and raise the note on the b string one fret.
And all of a sudden the logic of what’s where isn’t so hard to suss out.
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Tom is an incredibly fluid player. Seems like a really nice dude too.
I haven't personally listened to any of his music/albums other than youtube clips and demos. But I love his style, his super clean legato. I tend to lean more towards guys like Garsed or Holdsworth but Tom has his own thing going too.
I haven't personally listened to any of his music/albums other than youtube clips and demos. But I love his style, his super clean legato. I tend to lean more towards guys like Garsed or Holdsworth but Tom has his own thing going too.
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No question he's a monster player (and apparently a nice guy). But as far as listening to music goes, it's not his stuff I'd choose. Same goes for most of the YT crowd.
Since some years there's an incredible "note amount overflow" (at least for my taste) as these guys are really getting their chops sorted at a very young age, which defenitely shows. I mean, look at the Polyphia guys. Or Max Ostro. Absolutely stunning. Still, while I defenitely had my (even kinda formative) fusion years as well, hence I was absolutely enjyoing technical proficiency (such as coming from Gambale, Henderson and whomelse), for me it's pretty much worn out by now. I don't even listen to my old "heroes" much (if at all) anymore. I actually like guitar as an accompanying instrument much more, both regarding the music I listen to and the stuff I like to play. Sure, I still noodle around like a madman every now and then, but it's absolutely no priority anymore. Give me a solid funky beat and I'm all in for some 10 minute 16th note chaka-chaka (even without any variations).
Since some years there's an incredible "note amount overflow" (at least for my taste) as these guys are really getting their chops sorted at a very young age, which defenitely shows. I mean, look at the Polyphia guys. Or Max Ostro. Absolutely stunning. Still, while I defenitely had my (even kinda formative) fusion years as well, hence I was absolutely enjyoing technical proficiency (such as coming from Gambale, Henderson and whomelse), for me it's pretty much worn out by now. I don't even listen to my old "heroes" much (if at all) anymore. I actually like guitar as an accompanying instrument much more, both regarding the music I listen to and the stuff I like to play. Sure, I still noodle around like a madman every now and then, but it's absolutely no priority anymore. Give me a solid funky beat and I'm all in for some 10 minute 16th note chaka-chaka (even without any variations).
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There's a lot of truth to this for me too. I love instrumental, guitar centric music and the players that pave(d) the way, and I still enjoying playing/writing instrumentals -- but my normal listening habits these days tend to be directly opposite to it.
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Well, dare I say, I often even listen to music with none or pretty much no guitars. Yeah, I know, sacrilege and all that...
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Most of what I listen to…has no guitars
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Tom Quayle has always seemed like a cool bloke \m/
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That mirrors my experience with trying 4ths tuning as well. After 20 years of standard tuning, I find it easier to adjust for the B-G-string interval in real time than it takes for me to un-learn and re-learn how to play chords. Both tuning systems are compromises, but since Tom is mostly a soloist performer and isn't trying to play chord-melody arrangements and other more polyphonic styles, it really makes good sense for him.
By the way, check out The Guitar Hour podcast sometime, it's Tom Quayle along with several of his friends who are all great players.
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Sascha made a funny!
I'll edit that out later.
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#NeverEditFunny
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Nuh got rid of the screaming hyenas years ago, the girl friend been chill so far (7 years).
But funnily the last one was a session singer that always complained the guitars were to loud, even when muted.
I was reading this as my wife yelled at me because I didn't eat the cheese and it went bad, to which I said if I had eaten it you'd still be complaining, because I didn't left you any... As this was happening I read this which made laugh, unfortunately sounding like I was laughing at her crazy ass... Which resulted in even more yelling.
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Love is mysterious!I was reading this as my wife yelled at me because I didn't eat the cheese and it went bad, to which I said if I had eaten it you'd still be complaining, because I didn't left you any... As this was happening I read this which made laugh, unfortunately sounding like I was laughing at her crazy ass... Which resulted in even more yelling.
