Superior Drummer 3 sale

[MirrorProfiles]

Ah, you have the mysterious Evil Drums SDX. How do you like it?

LOVE it. Killer rooms, great drum choices and tunings. Joe Barresi, what's not to love?

With any library, I tend to prefer just loading the entire kit's as a preset, so everything is as they mic'd it (as opposed to mixing and matching drums together). With Evil Drums, that's even more important because there is often no consistency at all between different kits. The first 3 were done at Grandmaster Studios (Tool/Foo Fighters/tons of cool shit) and the latter 3 were done at Sound City. Within that, they record the kits in different parts of the room, with different chains and settings. So things can go goofy if you swap things around and mix and match too much.

That tends to be the case to a lesser extent anyway - I think it's too hard for different drums and sounds to make sense if you don't adjust the mics and settings at least a little bit. Usually for each kit they're going for something particular and all the micing follows that to a degree.

 

[EOengineer]

That's where I'm at. Still pretty curious about Hansa, Decades, State of the Art and Michael Ilberts EZX's from Sunset Sound.

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Big +1 for D&D, especially Mark Lewis's library. Tue Madsens makes a nice counter balance for some more quirky tones too. Progressive Foundry has a lot of great stuff, but the room is a little on the small side for my taste (easily augmented though). Honestly, I love all the SDX's, even the weird ones like Metal Foundry, Area 33, Rock Warehouse.

That’s a serious collection. Any of the newer SD3 specific SDXs that you think provide an alternative to D&D as for as modern rock, alternative, pop punk sounds go?

I’ve been curious about the newer Bob Rock library as he usually has killer drum sounds.

Fields of Rock seemed interesting too but I couldn’t quite tell what it is aimed at.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

That’s a serious collection. Any of the newer SD3 specific SDXs that you think provide an alternative to D&D as for as modern rock, alternative, pop punk sounds go?

I’ve been curious about the newer Bob Rock library as he usually has killer drum sounds.

Fields of Rock seemed interesting too but I couldn’t quite tell what it is aimed at.

Fields of Rock is quite dry and fat sounding. There's enough in there to get other sounds from it, but I'd think goth/punk/Pixies type rock stuff is where that one shines best. It's well recorded, not bone dry on the way in but just processed tastefully as you would in a studio like that. Plus it's Rockfield, and it's awesome to have samples done in that studio (in several rooms too). The added percussion stuff gives extra value to that library too.

The Bob Rock one is even more heavy handed with EQ on the way in. Its cool and sounds great but it pushes you very much into a corner, and I think it means you can't mix and match sounds as much as some other libraries (if that's something you tend to do). Each kit is very different sounding and quite stylised from the off. KILLER room, amazing desk, well tuned drums. I like it a lot, but not the most versatile. Bob is a great engineer, maybe even a bit underrated as he's generally seen as more of a "producer" than engineer these days.

Progressive foundry would be a good shout for what you're asking for. It's a bit more raw on the recording side, not too hyped and good variety of drums and tunings. Kind of the opposite to Rock Foundry in that regard.

The Frank Fillipetti library "Stories" is quite a nice middle ground - there's definitely a bit of EQ on the recording but its tracked so cleanly and the room is incredible (I way prefer the sound of this room to Prog Foundry). Not as much choice/versatility but it's not as limited/cooked as Rock Foundry.

 

[EOengineer]

Fields of Rock is quite dry and fat sounding. There's enough in there to get other sounds from it, but I'd think goth/punk/Pixies type rock stuff is where that one shines best. It's well recorded, not bone dry on the way in but just processed tastefully as you would in a studio like that. Plus it's Rockfield, and it's awesome to have samples done in that studio (in several rooms too). The added percussion stuff gives extra value to that library too.

The Bob Rock one is even more heavy handed with EQ on the way in. Its cool and sounds great but it pushes you very much into a corner, and I think it means you can't mix and match sounds as much as some other libraries (if that's something you tend to do). Each kit is very different sounding and quite stylised from the off. KILLER room, amazing desk, well tuned drums. I like it a lot, but not the most versatile. Bob is a great engineer, maybe even a bit underrated as he's generally seen as more of a "producer" than engineer these days.

Progressive foundry would be a good shout for what you're asking for. It's a bit more raw on the recording side, not too hyped and good variety of drums and tunings. Kind of the opposite to Rock Foundry in that regard.

The Frank Fillipetti library "Stories" is quite a nice middle ground - there's definitely a bit of EQ on the recording but its tracked so cleanly and the room is incredible (I way prefer the sound of this room to Prog Foundry). Not as much choice/versatility but it's not as limited/cooked as Rock Foundry.

Thanks, I will investigate. I know the progressive foundry isn’t for me due to the same reasons you quoted - didn’t love the rooms in that library. The Bob Rock stuff might work though, as I’m generally ok with opinionated kits.

 

[deathbyguitar]

The NY Studios SDX's are still the best sounding to me. The libraries all have a certain smack and punch that I can't get enough of. And the kick from Hit Factory is probably the most perfect kick sound I've ever heard. Also I really wish Toontrack would make more Sabian based kits, specifically HHX Evolution. Avatar spoiled me forever.

 

[bikescene]

The crossgrade price looks really good for those who are looking to upgrade from EZD3.

I’m still dragging my feet on buying a SDX 3-pack, but I think I’ll grab Southern Soul EZX during this sale.

Seeing this thread was a reminder for me to check my Product Manager. It turns out I didn’t install Metal Machinery SDX from the last sale. I’ve been basically using Progressive Foundry for everything and haven’t had to pull up any other libraries.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I'm a big fan of Toontrack but this has irked me for YEARS. There is a bug that causes samples to be exported out of time from the MIDI. IIRC at 44.1k things export as they should, but at other sample rates, there is some random shift where each hit is out of time by different amounts, and often ahead of the MIDI.

For writing, it's going to be imperceptible but if you want to augment real drums with Superior the phase is going to shift around and the transients will sound off.

I reported this years ago, and initially got a very gaslighty IK style response, where I had to jump through several hoops of demonstrating the issue in all manner of ways before they finally just shrugged and said something like "we'll let you know how it goes".

There's been quite a few updates since, and some even mention the timing but it still seems like it can't do possibly the most basic function that triggering from MIDI should be able to do.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

And the same thing (different library) but at 44.1kHz. No issue - the sample stays locked to the MIDI.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

There is a bug that causes samples to be exported out of time from the MIDI. IIRC at 44.1k things export as they should, but at other sample rates, there is some random shift where each hit is out of time by different amounts, and often ahead of the MIDI. […]

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