Rumor mill: John Mayer plugin coming soon?

[grafter.puzzler]

Turn the gain all the way down on the Scarlett. (That needs to be set at a minimum)

Is that typical for the 2i2?

 

[Sascha Franck]

I'm using a Scarlett 2i2. I have channel 1 set to "instrument" and the gain a little less than halfway. The gain meter is mostly in the green and tickles the yellow if I really slam on a chord. I'll try lowering it later.

- Go here: https://ghostnoteaudio.uk/pages/app-inputgain
- Select your Scarlett in the upper pulldown.
- Select Neural DSP in the lower pulldown.

It'll show you +0.8dB (for the 2nd gen, use the interface you actually own).

This is the value you add (or substract) to your interface's input trim at zero. You can use the very trim pot for that or keep it at zero and add 0.8dB with a gain plugin or use the input trim of the plugin itself.

 

[Whizzinby]

Is that typical for the 2i2?

Yes. The “crank until it’s near clipping” method isn’t the way to do it. Here is a pretty long ass thread that covers it, and provides feedback on most interfaces.

Thread 'Calibrating Input Level for Plugins'

Nov 15, 2022

Note: Please don't quote this entire post, I may want to edit and add information or clarify things.
You can just reply without hitting the reply button, Thank You!

My method of calibrating your Audio Interface and Helix Native to match Helix hardware.
The result is more accurate gain from Helix Native equal to the Hardware, the last thing you want is to unknowingly set your vintage Telecaster to be as hot as a shredding axe with 18v EMGs, which a LOT of people mistakenly do.


1. Generate a 1kHz sine wave test tone in your DAW.

The free DD SigGen VST works great...

• James Freeman
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[Orvillain]

I don’t get the dislike for the Mayer plug-in visuals, looks fine. NDSP have def done worse with Rabea and some others


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Are you actually serious??

Your blood is 100% crack-smoke if you think these pedal graphics look anything other than absolute dogshit.


OH NO!! THEY'RE UNDER MY SKIN!! IT BURNS !! IT BURRRRRNNSSS!!

.. fuck outta here.

 

[Jkist7]

I don’t get the dislike for the Mayer plug-in visuals, looks fine. NDSP have def done worse with Rabea and some others


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The Plini used to have some clean amp designs. With the "X" update, they "updated" the amp designs and ruined them completely.

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New:

 

[Jarick]

There’s a pretty massive bias against NDSP here so I’m not expecting much of a discussion.

I have no real reason to buy it but the demos sound awesome for that one sound really. It’s very much that bluesy mild overdrive thing but really well done.

Two cool things I see are the triple amp blending which is a unique concept and the post amp compressor which is not common for these plugins.

I’ll grab the trial and compare against the UA as I’m wondering how different that is.

There’s a ton of people who churn through $200 pedals on a monthly basis…comparatively this plugin is a really good value. I’m guessing too it could be the first digital plugin for a ton of guitarists who will now be curious to try. It’s a very different market than the djent crowd.

 

[Sascha Franck]

There’s a ton of people who churn through $200 pedals on a monthly basis…comparatively this plugin is a really good value.

Seriously, you can't compare plugins to hardware.

 

[Whizzinby]

There’s a pretty massive bias against NDSP here so I’m not expecting much of a discussion.

I have no real reason to buy it but the demos sound awesome for that one sound really. It’s very much that bluesy mild overdrive thing but really well done.

Two cool things I see are the triple amp blending which is a unique concept and the post amp compressor which is not common for these plugins.

I’ll grab the trial and compare against the UA as I’m wondering how different that is.

There’s a ton of people who churn through $200 pedals on a monthly basis…comparatively this plugin is a really good value. I’m guessing too it could be the first digital plugin for a ton of guitarists who will now be curious to try. It’s a very different market than the djent crowd.

Same camp here too. Don’t “need”, but I’m going to demo it this weekend. Everything I’ve heard sounds great and the graphics don’t trigger me

 

[grafter.puzzler]

Yes. The “crank until it’s near clipping” method isn’t the way to do it. Here is a pretty long ass thread that covers it, and provides feedback on most interfaces.

Thread 'Calibrating Input Level for Plugins'

Nov 15, 2022

Note: Please don't quote this entire post, I may want to edit and add information or clarify things.
You can just reply without hitting the reply button, Thank You!

My method of calibrating your Audio Interface and Helix Native to match Helix hardware.
The result is more accurate gain from Helix Native equal to the Hardware, the last thing you want is to unknowingly set your vintage Telecaster to be as hot as a shredding axe with 18v EMGs, which a LOT of people mistakenly do.


1. Generate a 1kHz sine wave test tone in your DAW.

The free DD SigGen VST works great...

• James Freeman
• Replies: 884
• Forum: Digital & Modeling

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Huh, this is enlightening.

What about using the FM9 as an interface?

 

[Sascha Franck]

What about using the FM9 as an interface?

In case it's the same as the FM3 interface-wise, that one is covered by the Ghostnote Audio tool.
Otherwise, you could compare the levels with your Scarlett and use that for orientation.

 

[[Nathan]]

Are you actually serious??

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Your blood is 100% crack-smoke if you think these pedal graphics look anything other than absolute dogshit.


OH NO!! THEY'RE UNDER MY SKIN!! IT BURNS !! IT BURRRRRNNSSS!!

.. fuck outta here.

NDSP is like your scorned lover

The graphics on that pedal fall into “ok” turf for me. Not offensive nothing to write home about. Considering how many archetype plugins they bring out with dedicated themes they gotta lean into it somehow

 

[[Nathan]]

The Plini used to have some clean amp designs. With the "X" update, they "updated" the ammo designs and ruined them completely.

Old:

New:

Yeah first one looks heaps better, should have just modernised that for the updated plugin

 

[Dez]

They better not fuck up the Mesa

 

[Dez]

IMO - perfection as far as UI goes in a plugin:

 

[Orvillain]

NDSP is like your scorned lover

The graphics on that pedal fall into “ok” turf for me. Not offensive nothing to write home about. Considering how many archetype plugins they bring out with dedicated themes they gotta lean into it somehow

You are Australian, and therefore have no sense of aesthetics.

 

[Dez]

You are Australian, and therefore have no sense of aesthetics.

Too bad they didn't have George Washington :\

 

[Orvillain]

Too bad they didn't have George Washington :\

George Nothington.

 

[Dez]

 

[grafter.puzzler]

- Go here: https://ghostnoteaudio.uk/pages/app-inputgain
- Select your Scarlett in the upper pulldown.
- Select Neural DSP in the lower pulldown.

It'll show you +0.8dB (for the 2nd gen, use the interface you actually own).

This is the value you add (or substract) to your interface's input trim at zero. You can use the very trim pot for that or keep it at zero and add 0.8dB with a gain plugin or use the input trim of the plugin itself.

So that link has a link to this YouTube video:

In the video it says that you should set the interface to maximum gain before clipping and adjust the input in the plugin. But @Whizzinby is saying that’s not the right approach.

So now I’m more confused

 

[Dez]

So that link has a link to this YouTube video:

In the video it says that you should set the interface to maximum gain before clipping and adjust the input in the plugin. But @Whizzinby is saying that’s not the right approach.

So now I’m more confused

As soon as I see his neckbeard I check out