Revalver 5 Released

[SwirlyMaple]

Is this a Mandela Effect thing?

I thought Peavey put out Revalver?!?

Peavey bought it from its original author, a guy with a company called Alien Connections. Peavey managed it right into the ground, and then sold the ashes to another group who apparently sold it again to inMusic, the current owner.

 

[DrewJD82]

Peavey bought it from its original author, a guy with a company called Alien Connections. Peavey managed it right into the ground, and then sold the ashes to another group who apparently sold it again to inMusic, the current owner.

Right on, thanks!

It was actually using Revalver and loading an IR into it that made me realize “Holy shit, that’s what an IR can do?!?”. It sounded like ass with the stock cabs but I read somewhere people were loading their own IR’s into it and getting good results, I got one from a buddy on another forum and that’s when my collection of 60K or so IR’s started.

Hahahah, I recorded this with Revalver in my living room in Garageband, in my GTAV crew we’d go into lobbies and destroy people, every time they’d try killing us they’d fail and we’d “Nope” them, so I made this goofy song for the crew.

 

[EOengineer]

It’s clear there was real talent back when Revalver took off. I hope those devs ended up somewhere useful and not just burned out.

 

[JCW308]

Just played around with it. HR models seem to be a bit better than the revalver models. A bit disappointing since I wanted to try Budda component modeling. Didn't like the cab section at all.
I quite like the automatic input adjustment, but of course this is not scientific.

GUI is dated. Feels like using 2000s plugins again

You know they're on the wrong track if the HR models sound better. Sheesh. Not good.

 

[timbuck3]

HeadRush | Revalver

revalver.headrushfx.com

looks a lot like revalver 4 to me, with some headrush amps. hoping there has been some nicer under the hood updates, but as an inMusic brand I always suspect they’re running on life support.

Nice for nostalgic reasons that it’s got a new version out, support for HW is nice for those users too. Are the HR models evolved from the Eleven emulations?

Hope it’s good. Nice pricing at least.

Peavey bought it from its original author, a guy with a company called Alien Connections. Peavey managed it right into the ground, and then sold the ashes to another group who apparently sold it again to inMusic, the current owner.

 

[SwirlyMaple]

You know they're on the wrong track if the HR models sound better. Sheesh. Not good.

I’ll bet a crisp dolla bill that the Revalver modeling codebase is still basically what it was in 2007. So in that context, it’s quite good

 

[pipelineaudio]

I’ll bet a crisp dolla bill that the Revalver modeling codebase is still basically what it was in 2007. So in that context, it’s quite good

Its not even close, they have made insane leaps in DSP over the years and really created a lot of incredible bits and bobs, but businesswise just havent been able to really put it out there. Their profiling tech a few years ago was really amazing to me, but sadly has yet to make it out. These were always KILLER coders, way ahead of their time, but not really business savvy

 

[EOengineer]

It’s not even close, they have made insane leaps in DSP over the years and really created a lot of incredible bits and bobs, but businesswise just havent been able to really put it out there. Their profiling tech a few years ago was really amazing to me, but sadly has yet to make it out. These were always KILLER coders, way ahead of their time, but not really business savvy

Just my opinion, but I had a very different experience with their profiling. I got so-so results capturing my Mark III, and the 3-4 amp profiles I purchased were memorably awful, so bad it turned me off from profiling altogether for a while.

 

[SwirlyMaple]

Just my opinion, but I had a very different experience with their profiling. I got so-so results capturing my Mark III, and the 3-4 amp profiles I purchased were memorably awful, so bad it turned me off from profiling altogether for a while.

I didn't get the greatest results with their "ACT Combo" (the profiling module) either, I'm afraid. Might've been my fault, but it looked like it was just 3 different underlying amp types (clean, crunch, heavy) and it was fitting match-EQ filters or IRs to them.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Even ACT was pretty good for the time, (what else did we have? Bias, TSE, Scuffham for the cleaner stuff, LePou, THu) I know how cool it is to hate BIAS, but to me it was a bit better than that, and that was quite a while ago. ACT was nowhere near where they are now.

 

[pipelineaudio]

I'm trying to remember my history, was Kemper out before ACT? I think ACT was 2009, pretty sure we were talking about it right before I moved back to hawaii in 2008, but I don;t know if it was in a released version.

I remember a lot of people saying revalver models were too mushy, like too much sag effect. It was really cool being able to mess with the SPICE looking stuff on it. But I didnt know enough about amp schematics to do too much.

The team working on it was really cool, not sure who is still there, but Scott Mire is definitely still a part of it and he is someone who genuinely cares and wants to see things move forward. The Revalver story (and Peavey Digital in general) is just kind of sad. Hoping that it really starts to take off now.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

So I had some nostalgia for Revalver and figured I'd give it a go in 2023.

Its kind of depressing how badly its aged, and how it just simply hasn't been able to keep with the times. I'm sort of split as to whether its more of a shame at how its been abandoned over the years, or if its a bigger shame to see it in its current state.

The UI is horrible to use. Everything requires lots of clicking and scrolling, behaviours are jerky, and just doing simple things seems to be laboured.

The tones are...... like they are from 2007. You can get somewhat passable tones, but given the amount of freeware, permanent sales, NAM/ToneX etc options available I don't know why someone would jump through so many hoops to get substandard tones here.

If it felt nice to use, MAYBE there would be some nostalgia feelings but its more like seeing a dorky old yearbook photo that makes you cringe rather than anything positive.

I honestly would have preferred to see what the team could have done with a fresh start, having taken inspiration from how the industry has evolved since the beginning. This is basically the revalver from before with some VERY random ass Headrush models (the JCM800 3 channel mod is a 50W, 100W and TS Mod) in one. The demo for the SLO100 would just stop making any sound after half a second on the overdrive channel. I think if it was a brand new Revalver plugin, with just a handful of brand new models, but with cutting edge technology and a platform to expand, I'd be really excited about it. This has just reminded me of how dead it is, and has probably made me less keen to keep an eye on them. Even worse is its probably given me a lower opnion of Headrush as a whole - it just feels like IP slapped together and rereleased.

Its a shame, it really was cutting edge and awesome in its day. I hope its something they can just draw a line under as a way of offering a bit more support and longevity for existing customers, but now have the means to move forward and make something new. I don't really see anything worth keeping in its current form

 

[timbuck3]

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[Spaced Out Ace]

I've not used many plug ins, and I was using a Line 6 Pod HD500 as an interface, but the fucking thing crashed out every 20 minutes. The general idea is interesting, but the plug in's ability to stay open was crashin' trash.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I've not used many plug ins, and I was using a Line 6 Pod HD500 as an interface, but the fucking thing crashed out every 20 minutes. The general idea is interesting, but the plug in's ability to stay open was crashin' trash.

Looking at Revalver 5, Tonocracy, Amplitube, Amp Room etc it really just screams how important it is to balance out features and keeping things streamlined. Amp Room tried to address this in their big update this year but it’s still slow and bloated to me.

Helix Native is really the only amp sim suite that ai feel strikes the right balance of being fast and nice to dial in, with minimal compromise. That’s not to say it couldn’t be improved and optimised further but so many just bite off more than they can chew, and I wish they’d just narrow things down into something concise rather than making a big jumbled mess.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

Looking at Revalver 5, Tonocracy, Amplitube, Amp Room etc it really just screams how important it is to balance out features and keeping things streamlined. Amp Room tried to address this in their big update this year but it’s still slow and bloated to me.

Helix Native is really the only amp sim suite that ai feel strikes the right balance of being fast and nice to dial in, with minimal compromise. That’s not to say it couldn’t be improved and optimised further but so many just bite off more than they can chew, and I wish they’d just narrow things down into something concise rather than making a big jumbled mess.

I didn't mind all the options and stuff that Revalver had. That was totally fine with me. What I didn't like was the frequent crashes. Whether the myriad of options were the cause of the crashes is something I'm unsure about. Either way, it made it pretty much unusable and a waste of money.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I didn't mind all the options and stuff that Revalver had. That was totally fine with me. What I didn't like was the frequent crashes. Whether the myriad of options were the cause of the crashes is something I'm unsure about. Either way, it made it pretty much unusable and a waste of money.

I'm not averse to options - I love being able to tweak the circuits and have that stuff available, and generally I'd prefer as much as possible. But its important to implement it in the most intuitive way. So much of Revalver requires extra clicks and scrolling, and things behave in a jerky manner that'll lead unnecessary mistakes. With loads of these suites, I'd rather they just started from scratch and really thought about what they are offering and how best to present it to the user. The software that is built off old code would benefit most from a fresh approach, not just in terms of tones, but as far as how users expect to interact with the GUI in 2023. Several of these are designed with early 2000's computing in mind where the playing field was very different.

I really like skeuomorphic GUI's but not when they're implemented badly. These are all different amp models. You can't search for amp models, so you scroll through and are presented with these graphics and a load of text. Just so many small annoyances that get in the way and make small tweaks more cumbersome than they need to be.

Totally agree with the crashes, I've had enough odd behaviour that I already uninstalled.

 

[nicolasrivera]

I tried the new Revalver last night. The RIR2 Cabinet module, TO ME, is perhaps one of the best part of this release.

Trying the amps I did enjoy greatly tweaking the internal virtual circuitry of the Revalver amps, this was what blew my mind way back when Revalver first came into market, before Peavey fuck it up.

Now, the unfortunate part is that YOU CAN NOT export the IRs from the RIR2 Module.

Spent 4 hours just trying my real amps with this RIR2 Cabinet module, loved it.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

I had Revalver 4, and I think it had RIR2 as well?

 

[nicolasrivera]

I had Revalver 4, and I think it had RIR2 as well?