Revalver 5 Released

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looks a lot like revalver 4 to me, with some headrush amps. hoping there has been some nicer under the hood updates, but as an inMusic brand I always suspect they’re running on life support.

Nice for nostalgic reasons that it’s got a new version out, support for HW is nice for those users too. Are the HR models evolved from the Eleven emulations?

Hope it’s good. Nice pricing at least.
 
Good to know.

When HR released the Prime and Core units, and anounced the Revalver comeback, I somehow expected some kind of Helix-HW-Native tandem thing. I hope HR is working together in developing software plugins with hardware support.

Let´s see how it delivers, and if there´s evolution in it.
 
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Just played around with it. HR models seem to be a bit better than the revalver models. A bit disappointing since I wanted to try Budda component modeling. Didn't like the cab section at all.
I quite like the automatic input adjustment, but of course this is not scientific.

GUI is dated. Feels like using 2000s plugins again
 
Looks like a re-skin of RV4 with the HR amps stuffed in.

MirrorProfiles said:
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How do we translate their pickup RMS voltage method into a dBu value? what definition are they using for 1V=______dBFS?
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It’s been a while since I’ve used it, but IIRC, it expects you to measure the output of your pickups with a DVM with the volume max’d, and then enter that value into its input block. Then you connect your guitar, press the learn button, and strum with the same intensity. It then automatically sets the level because it knows what your real pickup voltage is, and what it saw in the digital realm.

Might sound a bit silly but it’s the only plugin I know of that even attempted to get this right, and the method it uses should work ok-ish. Certainly better than nothing! ;)
 
SwirlyMaple said:
It’s been a while since I’ve used it, but IIRC, it expects you to measure the output of your pickups with a DVM with the volume max’d, and then enter that value into its input block. Then you connect your guitar, press the learn button, and strum with the same intensity. It then automatically sets the level because it knows what your real pickup voltage is, and what it saw in the digital realm.

Might sound a bit silly but it’s the only plugin I know of that even attempted to get this right, and the method it uses should work ok-ish. Certainly better than nothing! ;)
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Definitely cool they've been taking that seriously since day 1 and its a fairly novel approach. I feel like just entering a specific value is going to be more accurate and I'm guessing shouldn't be too hard to determine (might have to engage my brain a bit first).

Quite keen to check out the amp schematic pages for each amp (looks like you can adjust component values but not the circuit layout). and I'm even more keen for @James Freeman to see if there is any fun to be had with that when he isn't looking for errors in his Axe FX :)
 
I still have a bit of a soft spot for Revalver even though I think it’s a long-dead product.

I first used it back in 2007, when it was a one-man project, and the version was Revalver MKII.

It was revolutionary back then (IMO) and sounded miles better than any of the other available products at the time (Line 6 Gearbox / Amp Farm, early versions of Amplitube).

That old version from 16 years ago had fully component-level circuit simulation (you could even change things in a schematic view), a routing system that you could split into multiple stereo paths and stack up as many modules as you wanted in any order, IR support, and even realtime convolution reverb.

AFAIK, it was still running essentially the same simulation code even after Peavey bought it and ran it into the ground. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if, at its core, it was still running those algos under the new skin.

Other products outclass it nowadays, but for a while it was in a league of its own, and was well ahead of its time.
 
Have i read this correct , i can create any of preset created within revalver and load them into my HEADRUSH Core for liver use?
 
SwirlyMaple said:
I still have a bit of a soft spot for Revalver even though I think it’s a long-dead product.

I first used it back in 2007, when it was a one-man project, and the version was Revalver MKII.

It was revolutionary back then (IMO) and sounded miles better than any of the other available products at the time (Line 6 Gearbox / Amp Farm, early versions of Amplitube).

That old version from 16 years ago had fully component-level circuit simulation (you could even change things in a schematic view), a routing system that you could split into multiple stereo paths and stack up as many modules as you wanted in any order, IR support, and even realtime convolution reverb.

AFAIK, it was still running essentially the same simulation code even after Peavey bought it and ran it into the ground. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if, at its core, it was still running those algos under the new skin.

Other products outclass it nowadays, but for a while it was in a league of its own, and was well ahead of its time.
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I had great experiences with Revalver 4 probably 5+ years ago. The ability to tweak caps and tubes, bias, etc was way ahead of its time. I also thought they had something special happening with their power amp modeling where the British amps were pretty convincing when you cranked the master - they had a more solid top end that felt more like playing a real amp than many of the other offerings at the time.

I’m mostly on the Helix and Tonex train these days so I’ve not kept up with them.
 
TheTrueZoltan! said:
They are trying to sell the same 10 year old, outdated modeling just by raising the version number and slightly changing the color scheme of the plugin. Lame. Shame.

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Granted they seem to have been gutted by basically a private equity firm, In some ways, Revalver was way ahead of its time. IIRC they integrated some interactive version of spice into their app to allow on the fly adjustments of almost every component value on the schematic. They were also one of the first (if not THE first) to allow users to change the cab/poweramp impedance interaction.

Would have loved to see where that software could go if properly supported, which it clearly was not.
 
I can tell you that the people involved in this product are fanatics of the highest caliber. They definitely mean well and to advance the field as much as possible given what resources they can muster. Early days of Revalver had some incredible breakthroughs that it took years for others to really top, but since has as we've seen kind of stagnated. Though they really were constantly doing a lot of innovating in the background, including profiling since way back when
 
Interesting. Seems like a good way to squeeze some more juice out of the Headrush. I will say it's quite confusing that there are Headrush and Revalver stuff comingled and I'm not sure if those are separate products or what is going on. Much like Headrush itself.

Anyways it may be worth a flier as a cheap thrills plugin.
 
DrewJD82 said:
Is this a Mandela Effect thing?

I thought Peavey put out Revalver?!?
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Peavey had it for a bit, guessing they’ve allowed them to keep using their names and models officially.

Pretty sure the Headrush contributions stem from the Avid Eleven code, which like Revalver, was actually quite advanced for its time but is pretty long in the tooth now.

Shame what’s happened with both really, I’d imagine there’s enough in there that it could be evolved into something good.

I think the inMusic approach is to basically pick up the rubble of abandoned companies and try and repackage them for whatever money they can get. Seems mental to me that any kid would spend money on Revalver 5 over more established and current plugins like NDSP/Helix/Softube
 
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