Quilter Elevate

[BenIfin]

The good news is, if you are predicting it, there is minimal likelihood of it happening, so there is that.

Putting aside the not so subtle personal dig ..... no matter how I look at this unit ... even from a non-digital-buyers perspective, I just cant see it floating.

Its like a 10+ year old modeler trying to be sold as "good" because it does so little ... but apparently the little it does is good enough !?!

 

[synthpenguin]

This seems like a well-considered product in some ways, and I like Quilter's solid state tones quite a bit, but there are also a lot of weird choices here that make it feel pretty niche in the end. With the interface, I can't see this appealing to the crowd that is buying a lot of solid state preamp pedals etc because they don't want to use tube amps, but also don't want to go digital, and I can't see it appealing to the crowd that has already embraced digital and this type of workflow. I'm sure the build and fidelity will be rock solid, and the Quilter stuff is head and shoulders above Sansamp in sound imo, but it's truly a shame that this ends up feeling like a product for no one.

I still think it's odd that Quilter haven't put out a power amp pedal. Maybe they have a deal with QSC where they can't do power amp-only products, but with how many guitarists (pro and amateur) buy their amps purely to use as a power amp for modelers or solid state preamp pedals, and the general market for this sort of thing, it seems like an obvious thing, especially if they make a stereo version.

 

[BenIfin]

Quiter Elevate US $499.

Line 6 Pod Go US $499.

Consider the massive Amp and EFX library the Pod Go has .... its proven and continuing track record ....... all the extra hardware and MUCH better screen and how easy the Pod Go is to use on-board etc.......

I.m.h.o .... there is no Universe anywhere in the posited MultiVerse's where any individual who spent 5 mins researching what they can get for a $500 modeler would ever pick an Elevate over a Pod Go.

 

[Digital Igloo]

Quiter Elevate US $499.

Line 6 Pod Go US $499.

Consider the massive Amp and EFX library the Pod Go has .... its proven and continuing track record ....... all the extra hardware and MUCH better screen and how easy the Pod Go is to use on-board etc.......

I.m.h.o .... there is no Universe anywhere in the posited MultiVerse's where any individual who spent 5 mins researching what they can get for a $500 modeler would ever pick an Elevate over a Pod Go.

I dunno. I'm sure it sounds great. The Neunaber effects are stellar. I'm sure there's some overlap, but it seems like a different type of multieffect for a different customer.

 

[synthpenguin]

Quiter Elevate US $499.

Line 6 Pod Go US $499.

Consider the massive Amp and EFX library the Pod Go has .... its proven and continuing track record ....... all the extra hardware and MUCH better screen and how easy the Pod Go is to use on-board etc.......

I.m.h.o .... there is no Universe anywhere in the posited MultiVerse's where any individual who spent 5 mins researching what they can get for a $500 modeler would ever pick an Elevate over a Pod Go.

Yeah. They might have been better off if they had gone solid state instead of digital modeling, because at least that would be a plus for a lot of people, and Quilter has a proven track record there.

The reverbs will be great though, so there's that.

 

[BenIfin]

Yeah. They might have been better off if they had gone solid state instead of digital modeling, because at least that would be a plus for a lot of people, and Quilter has a proven track record there

^This^ is exactly what I thought it would be when it was first leaked - they know how to do this and they do it as good as, if not better than anyone. A massive selling and marketing advantage to .... and a genuine sonic alternative or advantage for many potential buyers.

 

[EOengineer]

It takes confidence to step into a market where Fractal and L6 are so thoroughly thrilling their customers.

Unless they really knock the modeling out of the park, which I frankly doubt, I just don’t know who this appeals to. Had the amp models been analog, that might have provided differentiation from competitors.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I dunno. I'm sure it sounds great. The Neunaber effects are stellar. I'm sure there's some overlap, but it seems like a different type of multieffect for a different customer.

Psssshh. Whatever. Who does this guy think he is?

 

[Baba]

I didn't see this when it was announced, is it out yet and/or did anyone hear any demos of it?

I've looked at it twice now, and I can't, for the life of me, figure out how it even works.

 

[EOengineer]

It kind of reminds me of those big utilitarian looking Ibanez analog multi effect units from the 80s that were basically just a bunch of analog stompboxes in a single metal enclosure.

 

[JiveTurkey]

It kind of reminds me of those big utilitarian looking Ibanez analog multi effect units from the 80s that were basically just a bunch of analog stompboxes in a single metal enclosure.

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I had the rack version of this many many many years ago. I wish I still had it

 

[EOengineer]

I had the rack version of this many many many years ago. I wish I still had it

Unfortunately a fair number of these apparently fell victim to poachers who would buy them and harvest the old 4558 chips that were the supposed source of the mysterious tubescreamer magic at the time.

There are some rack units floating around on reverb surprisingly. I wonder what those noise levels are looking like these days.

 

[synthpenguin]

It kind of reminds me of those big utilitarian looking Ibanez analog multi effect units from the 80s that were basically just a bunch of analog stompboxes in a single metal enclosure.

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Okay, as impractical as these are in some ways, I've always wanted one haha. Or a Yamaha SB-200 with its patchbay:

 

[laxu]

Okay, as impractical as these are in some ways, I've always wanted one haha. Or a Yamaha SB-200 with its patchbay:

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This is seriously super cool. It even has a cable tester built in!

Yamaha always amazes me because several times I've seen gear from them that seems like it's ahead of the times.

I wish pedalboards had evolved into something like this instead of the garbage cable rat's nest and velcro/dual lock system we use. Just plug pedals into an Eurorack-ish system and then patchbay the connections.

 

[synthpenguin]

This is seriously super cool. It even has a cable tester built in!

Yamaha always amazes me because several times I've seen gear from them that seems like it's ahead of the times.

I wish pedalboards had evolved into something like this instead of the garbage cable rat's nest and velcro/dual lock system we use. Just plug pedals into an Eurorack-ish system and then patchbay the connections.

It is, isn't it? I should have gotten one when they were going for 400 to 500USD used instead of 2 to 5x that like now lol (and sometimes not even complete).

And yeah, I agree in a lot of ways. I'd actually really love to integrate a patch bay into my pedalboard too... I guess that's part of the appeal of a MIDI loop switcher. Maybe someday lol.

 

[laxu]

It is, isn't it? I should have gotten one when they were going for 400 to 500USD used instead of 2 to 5x that like now lol (and sometimes not even complete).

And yeah, I agree in a lot of ways. I'd actually really love to integrate a patch bay into my pedalboard too... I guess that's part of the appeal of a MIDI loop switcher. Maybe someday lol.

I think the cool part of the Yamaha patchbay system is that it's not something you have to use. It seems to route everything from slot 1-10 normally, so you only want to use it when you want to mess with the signal routing. You can also use the pedal to control some parameter on some of the effects, including multiple params using the CV and Junction sections.

 

[synthpenguin]

I think the cool part of the Yamaha patchbay system is that it's not something you have to use. It seems to route everything from slot 1-10 normally, so you only want to use it when you want to mess with the signal routing. You can also use the pedal to control some parameter on some of the effects, including multiple params using the CV and Junction sections.

Yep, they're normalled right to left, bottom to top! You can change that internally though too, so you can have a different "default" order. And yeah, the CV routing is really cool too.

This article from 1982 goes over each effect and how the system works, and is a pretty interesting read: https://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/yamaha-professional-system-effectors/4340

EDIT: Also, here's an interesting article from the time that compared the SB-200 to Boss's SCC-700 system, which worked more like modern loop switchers (though with a slot system): https://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/yamaha-versus-roland/4700

 

[jay mitchell]

This is seriously super cool. It even has a cable tester built in!

Uhh, it's a built-in invitation for signal interruption nightmares. It's called a "normalled" patchbay. All the jacks are switching jacks. If there's nothing plugged in to either of a pair of connectors, the signal is "normalled" to the default routing scheme. In this case, there are 11 positions in the patch bay, so the signal goes through 22 sets of contacts in the switching jacks. Assuming the default routing places everything in cascade (aka "series"), a single open switch would interrupt everything. Good luck if that happens on a gig....

Yamaha always amazes me because several times I've seen gear from them that seems like it's ahead of the times.

Having never seen that monstrosity before, I have no idea of its vintage, but that kind of patchbay was common in larger mixing consoles at least as far back as. the 1980s.

Whether the effects themselves were any good - definitely not a given - there are very good reasons the idea never caught on.

 

[Richard_G]

I'm fine with my "garbage cable rat's nest and velcro/dual lock system". Unless I'm using an all-in-one digital solution.

 

[JCW308]

It kind of reminds me of those big utilitarian looking Ibanez analog multi effect units from the 80s that were basically just a bunch of analog stompboxes in a single metal enclosure.

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Except it has no knobs and it's digital.