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Showing pride for your country and fellow citizens isn't political imo.

My hypothetical "Tag der Deutschen Einheit" guitar would very certainly show anything else than being proud of my country. Being proud of countries (regardless of which countries they are) isn't something for me, to put it carefully. And we should possibly leave it at that to stick with the forum policies.
 
My hypothetical "Tag der Deutschen Einheit" guitar would very certainly show anything else than being proud of my country. Being proud of countries (regardless of which countries they are) isn't something for me, to put it carefully. And we should possibly leave it at that to stick with the forum policies.
Like I said, it's often the context in which we choose to show our pride that gets us in trouble... not that we have pride in general. I think it's awesome that we are a fairly diverse set of people here on this forum, from all parts of the world.
 
Like I said, it's often the context in which we choose to show our pride that gets us in trouble... not that we have pride in general. I think it's awesome that we are a fairly diverse set of people here on this forum, from all parts of the world.

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I think it's awesome that we are a fairly diverse set of people here on this forum, from all parts of the world.

Defenitely. And that's precisely one of the reasons why I don't go well with "country pride". After all, it's one world and we only have this one. If there's anything to be proud about, it'd be to keep this very single world intact as much as it gets.
 
Pride and extreme nationalism starts wars !!!

Not gonna happen with me. As said, I see myself as someone living in this world and only accidentally had the (sometimes questionable) luck of being born in this very country.

Note: I can absolutely admire local culture and what not. And I'm all for keeping it intact. But that's got very little to do with countries per se (others than the language perhaps).
Note #2: I'm can NOT admire the local culture of people clapping on 1+3 in almost all parts of Germany. Maybe a strong reason not to be proud of this country... (it's changing a bit in favour of 2+4 among some younger folks, though - finally and fortunately).
 

Seriously, it's not mean at all.

As an anecdote: I've once accidentally been on a gig of german boogie woogie pianist Axel Zwingenberger (not exactly a gig I'd go to deliberately) and the audience was all like, say, between 50-70 (nothing wrong with that, just to illustrate how this is a thing with former generations). They started clapping on 1+3 on pretty much any kinda uplifting tune (which would be most of them...).
Now, it was in a kinda town hall, piano was miked and amplified a bit, but hundreds of folks clapping were easily as loud. The guy simply couldn't stand it. He even tried to animate them to clap on 2+4 before he would start playing, but it always only worked for a handful of bars, after those people would just shift the claps. He then simply shifted the beat back on his own (which I found great), only to see the audience shifting their accents again, after which he would turn around the beat again. On one particular tune that happened like 2-3 times. I had a decent laugh and would've loved talking to the guy after the show (I even had backstage access but he had to leave instantly).

I've also seen the same happening with an entire (pretty funky) band. They must've even practised that beforehand (or at least talked about it) because whenever the drummer shifted the beat by a quarter note (which happened 2-3 times due to the germanized clapping), the entire band instantly followed.
"Listen, we're playing in germany today, land of the Weißwurst groove, better be prepared for me turning the beat around here and there!"

That's german clapping in a nutshell.
 
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