Poly Effects AMPLE - Stereo NAM Player

[Orvillain]

As said...not all of them do. We would still say that we have the Mark V ch2 gain at 7 etc.

OK. Show me 6.5 on those Polymeh sliders. I'll wait

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

I don't quite know what it means either, but hopefully @polyeffects will shed some light on this.

Certainly though, it seems that Loki cares about quality and that processing power is not such an issue that lite NAM captures are being run here

I assume it’s in reference to amount of processing allocated to amp block in the FM3. Given this runs stereo pair of amp models…conceivable.

 

[laxu]

OK. Show me 6.5 on those Polymeh sliders. I'll wait

I wouldn't care how any of that translates to settings on another amp as I'd only deal with what I hear from the Ample models.

It seems to have a separate option for more granular control around any current value:

For fine control press and hold the Ample logo, this will cause all sliders to enter ‘fine mode’. You can tell you are in fine mode because the centre LED on all sliders will be lit. You can now finely tune the slider value around the current setting.

So I guess you find your ballpark in the main settings, then you hit the fine tune mode to get more granular if needed.

 

[Orvillain]

For fine control press and hold the Ample logo, this will cause all sliders to enter ‘fine mode’. You can tell you are in fine mode because the centre LED on all sliders will be lit. You can now finely tune the slider value around the current setting.

That's worse than having to use two hands to edit the Axe FX III !!!

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

 

[BenIfin]

I wouldn't care how any of that translates to settings on another amp as I'd only deal with what I hear from the Ample models.

It seems to have a separate option for more granular control around any current value:

For fine control press and hold the Ample logo, this will cause all sliders to enter ‘fine mode’. You can tell you are in fine mode because the centre LED on all sliders will be lit. You can now finely tune the slider value around the current setting.

So I guess you find your ballpark in the main settings, then you hit the fine tune mode to get more granular if needed.

And no Desktop Editor ...... God forbid as that would make tweaking, saving, leveling and backing presets ... you know ... easy and quick

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

 

[Enchilada Jones]

OK. Show me 6.5 on those Polymeh sliders. I'll wait

Show me where/when an arbitrary 6.5 is always going to be what works best when you set up to play?

You might like 6.5 last time you played but a day later, a room elsewhere etc and 6.5 is too much or too little.
You know how you can tell you need a little more or a little less? Your ears tell you….

So you go to rehearsal and everything is the same as it was except the drummer has a few new cymbals or the other guitarist has a new drive pedal etc and 6.5 becomes no more definitive than ‘just over 50%’, or ‘a little bit past half way’.
You move the control and listen to the result and then decide what is the ‘new just right’. Need a label for it after you move it? Have at it, name it broccoli if you want, tomorrow it might be curry or 8.423.

 

[Sascha Franck]

You might like 6.5 last time you played but a day later, a room elsewhere etc and 6.5 is too much or too little.

And fwiw, this is why each and every modeler on earth needs global blocks.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

These digital boxes have so many conveniences that they've become inconvenient....

 

[Orvillain]

Show me where/when an arbitrary 6.5 is always going to be what works best when you set up to play?

You don't know what arbitrary means.

<ducks>

 

[ian_dissonance]

Show me where/when an arbitrary 6.5 is always going to be what works best when you set up to play?

You might like 6.5 last time you played but a day later, a room elsewhere etc and 6.5 is too much or too little.
You know how you can tell you need a little more or a little less? Your ears tell you….

So you go to rehearsal and everything is the same as it was except the drummer has a few new cymbals or the other guitarist has a new drive pedal etc and 6.5 becomes no more definitive than ‘just over 50%’, or ‘a little bit past half way’.
You move the control and listen to the result and then decide what is the ‘new just right’. Need a label for it after you move it? Have at it, name it broccoli if you want, tomorrow it might be curry or 8.423.

My tones sound the same in my in-ears in every room. So 6.5 is always 6.5.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

You don't know what arbitrary means.

<ducks>

I actually do but was trying to imply that, although you can prove that 6.5 is a relatively precise metric, in the context of using a guitar amp, precision loses definition as if Loki himself was playing tricks on you.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

 

[Enchilada Jones]

My tones sound the same in my in-ears in every room. So 6.5 is always 6.5.

So the sound in the room has changed but maybe you don’t hear it. Granted it doesn’t matter if your FOH mix is corrected or still sounds good in spite of changes but if you took in ears out you might hear 7.5 one day and 5.0 the next.
So always doesn’t always mean always lol

 

[ian_dissonance]

So the sound in the room has changed but maybe you don’t hear it. Granted it doesn’t matter if your FOH mix is corrected or still sounds good in spite of changes but if you took in ears out you might hear 7.5 one day and 5.0 the next.
So always doesn’t always mean always lol

I’d rather think about playing the songs right than worry about if my tone is 0.00006% more high-endy in the room. Whoever said this is for people who would use plugins but think they’re too cool for it was on to something.

 

[Orvillain]

I actually do but was trying to imply that, although you can prove that 6.5 is a relatively precise metric, in the context of using a guitar amp, precision loses definition as if Loki himself was playing tricks on you.

Which is exactly why this bit of kit is kind of crap. Because moving from room to room all week, month, or even youuurrr yeeeaaarrrrr..... with no readouts in order to hone in on "the typical range" ... you're stuck using your ears, which in the heat of a soundcheck is not always a good idea.

There's a reason we give users more information and not less. So they can make more informed decisions. The LED's on this thing offer very little resolution, it has two modes of resolution in order to offer you the illusion of control, but to me.... it is way easier to just turn a knob. I think it is pretty horrid design, and would not want to use it.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

The LED's on this thing offer very little resolution, it has two modes of resolution in order to offer you the illusion of control, but to me.... it is way easier to just turn a knob. I think it is pretty horrid design, and would not want to use it.

I get it, you don’t like it.
What is kind of weird is you attribute so much of your dislike to what amounts to 30% less visual aid, 7 vs 10, and likely equal resolution of actual adjustment since there are, I think, more than a thousand points in the ‘sweep’ of the sliding up and down the led’s.
Some men prefer knobs though, it’s cool

 

[banned]

My ears are at 4.8 today....needz more granularz!!

 

[Sascha Franck]

Fwiw, there's several reasons why I may want my mids at 4 one day and at 8 the next day.
There's as well several reasons why I'd like to still use the same patches and organisation.

Whether these reasons are important to anyone else is completely irrelevant as long as they're important for some folks.