Picking this up at the weekend. Aristides h6.

[Eagle]

That’s what I thought. Admittedly I’ve only seen a few, but those customers with them don’t bring them in for anything but to show us. No work needed.

Absolutely my experience too .

 

[State of Epicicity]

That is the only zero friction nut. Totally brilliant idea.View attachment 25727
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What guitar is this?

 

[State of Epicicity]

I’m curious how they’re moving, when they don’t absorb or dispel moisture. That’s weird.

I don't know, and I've never played one of these, but if you read the thread, I'm just referencing what owners have said. This is what someone wrote in that thread I linked:

"There seems to be a big misconception of the construction of these guitars.

They are not "made of Arium", they're a chunk of Arium, which is basically foam, and then sandwiched in between a fiberglass shell. Think of an M&M candy, the Arium is the chocolate and the candy shell is the fiberglass.

Arium does not provide structural support, the CF and fiberglass do.

Fiberglass and carbon fiber are set with epoxy, and depending on what formulation you can have different stability characteristics."

 

[State of Epicicity]

I found it: Steinberger GS7. Man I wish Steinberger were still making their most innovative designs.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I don't know, and I've never played one of these, but if you read the thread, I'm just referencing what owners have said. This is what someone wrote in that thread I linked:

"There seems to be a big misconception of the construction of these guitars.

They are not "made of Arium", they're a chunk of Arium, which is basically foam, and then sandwiched in between a fiberglass shell. Think of an M&M candy, the Arium is the chocolate and the candy shell is the fiberglass.

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Arium does not provide structural support, the CF and fiberglass do.

Fiberglass and carbon fiber are set with epoxy, and depending on what formulation you can have different stability characteristics."

Toan Is In The FoamTM

 

[Eagle]

What guitar is this?

Steinberger GS 7 Z.

 

[Eagle]

I don't know, and I've never played one of these, but if you read the thread, I'm just referencing what owners have said. This is what someone wrote in that thread I linked:

"There seems to be a big misconception of the construction of these guitars.

They are not "made of Arium", they're a chunk of Arium, which is basically foam, and then sandwiched in between a fiberglass shell. Think of an M&M candy, the Arium is the chocolate and the candy shell is the fiberglass.

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Arium does not provide structural support, the CF and fiberglass do.

Fiberglass and carbon fiber are set with epoxy, and depending on what formulation you can have different stability characteristics."

Stiffness yes stability no . Utterly predictable material. Also the infill is very similar to hard wood not really foam, it’s hard and would have some structural strength it’s self.

 

[State of Epicicity]

Steinberger GS 7 Z.
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Even the lower bout cutaway is deeper than most 22 fret guitars. They thought of everything.

 

[Eagle]

Even the lower bout cutaway is deeper than most 22 fret guitars. They thought of everything.

It’s 24 fret.

 

[State of Epicicity]

Stiffness yes stability no . Utterly predictable material. Also the infill is very similar to hard wood not really foam, it’s hard and would have some structural strength it’s self.

That makes me curious if people who are adjusting their Aristides necks are doing it unnecessarily, if they're finding symptoms of something else going on and misdiagnosing it as a neck in need of adjustment.

 

[State of Epicicity]

It’s 24 fret.

Oops. Seeing what I want to see.

 

[Eagle]

That makes me curious if people who are adjusting their Aristides necks are doing it unnecessarily, if they're finding symptoms of something else going on and misdiagnosing it as a neck in need of adjustment.

I have no idea what they would be adjusting for. Literally nothing moves ever on them.

Oops. Seeing what I want to see.

I prefer 24 frets .

 

[Devin]

That makes me curious if people who are adjusting their Aristides necks are doing it unnecessarily, if they're finding symptoms of something else going on and misdiagnosing it as a neck in need of adjustment.

Do they even have adjustable truss rods?

 

[Eagle]

Do they even have adjustable truss rods?

Yes to set relief to taste.

 

[State of Epicicity]

Andy, have you gotten to try any of the headless multiscale Aristides with the Hantung trem? What's the range like on these, i.e., do they have a similar range to a Floyd? Are they as stable as a Floyd?

 

[State of Epicicity]

I see the Hantung trem is also on their multiscale guitars with a headstock. Same question there!

 

[Eagle]

Andy, have you gotten to try any of the headless multiscale Aristides with the Hantung trem? What's the range like on these, i.e., do they have a similar range to a Floyd? Are they as stable as a Floyd?

They are as stable as a Floyd but with the range similar to 510 .

 

[Eagle]

I see the Hantung trem is also on their multiscale guitars with a headstock. Same question there!

Haven’t tried one yet.

 

[State of Epicicity]

How about the multiscale T4M, Technology for Musicians trems?

 

[Eagle]

How about the multiscale T4M, Technology for Musicians trems?

Only played one . Should be ok the design is pretty solid. I assume it is mostly brass with steel knife edges.,