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A PC with a better processor than an M5, for exponentially less? That’s fascinating.
Just for shits and giggles, I just costed up an M5 Pro Macbook Pro, 16inch, nano texture display, with 4TB of space.

£3849.

That's kind of insane. Even if I drop the extras, it is still £2699. And it doesn't come with the power adapter anymore. big belly lols.

My AMD 5950X setup that I built in 2020 is still going strong, and even accounting for the 4090 I added, I'm still less than the cost of the M5, and the 5950X chip is really no slouch and still absolutely whizzes through anything I throw at it. I've built such a great machine - very stable, performs exceptionally in every area - that upgrading to anything else even almost a full 6 years later, makes very little sense for me. But even if I did, I'd just need a new motherboard and CPU, maybe RAM. Don't need to recycle the whole thing.

I'm writing this on my Macbook M1 Pro; which I got in 2021. That's still going strong too. Feel zero need to upgrade. Oh... and the trade in value with Apple? £385. Another big belly lol !!
 
Just for shits and giggles, I just costed up an M5 Pro Macbook Pro, 16inch, nano texture display, with 4TB of space.

£3849.

That's kind of insane. Even if I drop the extras, it is still £2699. And it doesn't come with the power adapter anymore. big belly lols.

My AMD 5950X setup that I built in 2020 is still going strong, and even accounting for the 4090 I added, I'm still less than the cost of the M5, and the 5950X chip is really no slouch and still absolutely whizzes through anything I throw at it. I've built such a great machine - very stable, performs exceptionally in every area - that upgrading to anything else even almost a full 6 years later, makes very little sense for me. But even if I did, I'd just need a new motherboard and CPU, maybe RAM. Don't need to recycle the whole thing.

I'm writing this on my Macbook M1 Pro; which I got in 2021. That's still going strong too. Feel zero need to upgrade. Oh... and the trade in value with Apple? £385. Another big belly lol !!

Yeah, it’s fun to run up the options, and compare it to a home built PC. I like Apples and oranges too.
 
Just for shits and giggles, I just costed up an M5 Pro Macbook Pro, 16inch, nano texture display, with 4TB of space.

£3849.

That's kind of insane. Even if I drop the extras, it is still £2699. And it doesn't come with the power adapter anymore. big belly lols.

My AMD 5950X setup that I built in 2020 is still going strong, and even accounting for the 4090 I added, I'm still less than the cost of the M5, and the 5950X chip is really no slouch and still absolutely whizzes through anything I throw at it. I've built such a great machine - very stable, performs exceptionally in every area - that upgrading to anything else even almost a full 6 years later, makes very little sense for me. But even if I did, I'd just need a new motherboard and CPU, maybe RAM. Don't need to recycle the whole thing.

I'm writing this on my Macbook M1 Pro; which I got in 2021. That's still going strong too. Feel zero need to upgrade. Oh... and the trade in value with Apple? £385. Another big belly lol !!
My gaming PC is a 13600K+4090 small form factor system, and that's still cheaper than a Mac Studio, with way, way more GPU horsepower at maybe at most twice the size. Apple's desktop systems don't make a whole lot of sense to me, with maybe the exception of the baseline Mac Mini.

I just bought the Macbook Pro 16" M2 Max 64 GB / 1 TB I have been using for work for the past 3 years. Got a favorable price for it (about 1600 €) and it has performed pretty great so far. I originally asked for the 64 GB RAM because at the time I was working in a project with a very heavy Docker container load for local development, but my current project could do with way less. This is going to be my new recording machine so that RAM is very nice to have! I expect to be using it for quite some time.

My new work machine is a Macbook Pro 16" M5 Pro 48 GB / 1 TB because the Max cost so damn much that it was beyond my company's allowed computer budget. I'm hoping that the M5 Pro's better GPU and the 48 GB RAM might come useful if locally running LLMs become common in my field of work.

Realistically I can't find any relevant difference between my M2 Max vs M5 Pro.

Really all the Apple Silicon devices are great so I'd just buy something older. I personally avoid the M1 gen because it lacks a native HDMI 2.1 port, but that's really my only complaint. M2-M5 Pro or Max is going to do a helluva lot, and for the average user the new MB Neo is probably plenty. It's just that you pay through the nose for disk space and RAM with Apple.

But at the same time, I can't see you getting a better value from say Dell, Lenovo etc. I'd look at Framework if I was going for a PC laptop but those are quickly similar money to Apple.
 
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