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And I'm still trying to figure out why you are having such a hard time with me having the opinion that I do. Don't take it personal.
Go ask the guy that agreed with my post 100%. I'm not alone here.
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And I'm still trying to figure out why you are having such a hard time with me having the opinion that I do. Don't take it personal.
Go ask the guy that agreed with my post 100%. I'm not alone here.
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Not sure what point you are trying to make here? Yeah it's cool you can power it with any power brick. Thing is, you don't have to with the Amperium to keep it quiet. With the QC you might have to because if you use the provided power supply, it is noisy.
See below for a noise comparison on a clean amp with the same settings across the board. The QC has an inherently higher noise floor which has been linked back to their PSU. Is it the end of the world, no. But imo it should not be happening on a professional grade device
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That IN MY OPINION the occasionally noisy, arguably shitty power supply isn't a big f%$king deal out IN THE REAL WORLD.
Jeez, how about letting it go?
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Because it's a dumbass opinion
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Because it's a dumbass opinion
Takes one to know one.
now getting back to that new Pink Taco.......
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Please don't drag me into this without context on basis of a f***ing emoji. I was simply supporting the point (ad nauseum) that a barrel jack DC input makes some configurations possible that aren't possible with an IEC AC input.
That said... excepting the brief period when I was running a battery-powered QC board, I've used the original factory PSU from day one, and it hasn't presented any issues for me. That's just one data point, though. It's entirely possible that the stock PSU is more susceptible to noise when other environmental variables (dirty power, improperly wired guitars, etc.) are present. It's also entirely possible that QC design issues that have nothing to do with the PSU make it more susceptible to ground noise, or otherwise increase its noise floor. (It's also worth noting that it's entirely usable, and sounds awesome, regardless.)
Buy what works for you.
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Has it ever been conclusively linked back to their PSU, though? Like, someone was able to clearly and consistently demonstrate a problem that can't be attributed to any other variables, and then eliminate that problem by substituting another PSU? I've heard people make vague hints to this effect, but I've never seen it backed up as clearly as: sucked with stock PSU; was fine with product X. My next question would be, what's the cheapest product X that improves matters, and exactly why does it work?
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That's a great question and one NDSP set out to determine but went radio silent. I'd love to know as well!
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Maybe don't make such broad assumptions about an icon in the future? I still agree with the post I liked. I'm not going to start tip toeing around the internet to accommodate you.
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I think the fact that they went radio silent makes the case that the PSU never had anything to do with it. If it were that simple, they could have provided or at least recommended an alternative. It's more likely they couldn't consistently duplicate the problem, or they determined that the problem was related to the QC's internal design. (After all, no matter how you slice it, that barrel jack connector is only seeing two relative voltages.)
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Take the stick out of your butt man. This is all lighthearted shit to me. If I need to be treating some of you guys with kids glove please be sure to let me know right here and now and I'll be sure to tip toe around your sensibilities in the future.
What the flying fuck? Is this a gear forum or a 'be careful of my feelings' symposium?
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You just get more likable with every post, don't you?
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I'd agree but it seems to be a relatively common complaint. Enough that NDSP put time and resources into creating (but not successful) a new power supply. They suggested those get on a wait-list for it when it became available. So there was something to it.
But maybe like you said they made the new PSU and it still didn't help. I think this circles back to NDSP doesn't have the same insight on their units as the other guys.
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Enough that NDSP claimed to put time and resources into creating a new power supply. I count NDSP’s correspondence on this matter among the “vague hints” I heard at that time. Nothing concrete was ever presented. They didn’t even manage to explain how they might improve the PSU in any direct, technical manner.
I agree with you that NDSP frequently gives the impression of not entirely understanding their own product.
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Yeah that's true. It may have just been them saying that so people would stop talking about it lol
Oh well, it obviously still functions at a high level. It's just annoying is all.
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Not to my knowledge.
NDSP does have on their site how to reduce noise and essentially states for the best experience, you need to have other equipment plugged into the QC to ground it, from the sounds of it.
Who knows
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