Hey !
I *wish* I had the golden ears that some on other forums claim to have - I definitely do not.
When I listened to your clip I just let it play all the way through both clips non-stop - definitely could not tell which was the Amp and which was NAM - and letting them play through - non-stop - I also could not detect any meaningful differences. Pretty much why I said that live or recorded its irrelevant.
To me this also applies to the good hardware units - Fractal, L6, Boss GT, Kemper, QC, Tonex etc. the "good" stuff these days is all at such a high level of accuracy and quality that it has just become academic
to me - b.t.w have I ever mentioned how much I despise Neural as a company
It was *only* when I clicked back and forth repeatedly on your clip that I noticed the [small] differences I mentioned in my prior post .... cant really say much more or why - but
to my ears, that's just what
I did, and what
I heard (?) Others doubtlessly heard it differently.
An interesting aside - about 2 months ago I bought a 2nd hand Nux Amp Academy [for a "play"] and for the equivalent of $US 130 - I loaded my own IR and its raw Amp tones are utterly stunning - if I posted clips of it against NAM / Tonex / Helix / Boss GT clips all using the same IR -
no-one would ever be able to tell which is the $130 modeler - and yes, it also "feels" excellent.
Anyway - back to the issue - check-out
this clip posted in the last day or so - Real Amp vs Tonex vs Proteus vs NAM - can anyone realistically and credibly claim or say that Tonex sh%ts on NAM, or NAM sh%ts on Tonex, or NAM Captures the Amp "better" than Tonex or Tonex Captures the Amp "better" than NAM (?) I don't / cant.
Maybe if I had the original .WAV files and could be bothered, and went back and forth quickly between clips etc. I might be able to pick some small differences between Tonex and NAM .... but what's the flying-f%ck point of that ?
Lastly - as I have said before, I have absolutely
zero issue with NAM as a potential product - zero.
Its the whole "keys to the kingdom" vibe that grates me.
To me, none of the above is controversial - yet it
seems that the response to anyone who tries to point out some of the above, is that NAM is new, and will only get better - well, I say to that, of course it will fu%king get better - no-one is denying that.
The "grate'y" bit for me - and this is the "kicker" - is that those same people also choose to deliberately ignore the fact that IK Tonex [for example] which is also A.I built - will also fu%king get better - maybe one will get "better-er" than the other - who the f%ck knows.
Anyway - that's my 2c explanation / reasoning.
Ben
