Modelling preferences and opinions

[sashimi]

Sorry for going off topic here and I know this isn’t an original idea, but someone should make a third category of digital amp device. We have component modeling and we have captures, two different approaches to imitating the sound of a real amp. How about a platform that allows you to build your own virtual amp designs, dumbed down enough for a regular person to use. Mix and match different topologies, components, power supplies, tubes, tone stacks, etc. There could be presets or guidelines to achieve real world amp tones but the focus will not be on accuracy, it’s 100% about getting a sound you like. I would have a lot of fun with something like that.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Sorry for going off topic here and I know this isn’t an original idea, but someone should make a third category of digital amp device. We have component modeling and we have captures, two different approaches to imitating the sound of a real amp. How about a platform that allows you to build your own virtual amp designs, dumbed down enough for a regular person to use. Mix and match different topologies, components, power supplies, tubes, tone stacks, etc. There could be presets or guidelines to achieve real world amp tones but the focus will not be on accuracy, it’s 100% about getting a sound you like. I would have a lot of fun with something like that.

You mean like Fractal, but dumbed down?

 

[Enchilada Jones]

in 'the gear forum' you are going to get a much higher noise ratio of philistinism than you would in 'the science behind the modeling' forum.
So are you really seeking accurate discussion about accuracy? or just baiting those of us who are prone to glaze over the distinction between 'modeling' and 'modelers'?

 

[ian_dissonance]

in 'the gear forum' you are going to get a much higher noise ratio of philistinism than you would in 'the science behind the modeling' forum.
So are you really seeking accurate discussion about accuracy? or just baiting those of us who are prone to glaze over the distinction between 'modeling' and 'modelers'?

We’re all master baiters here, for sure.

 

[HotRats]

We’re literally on a forum full of people who do, though. As noted by the repeated discussions about it. Why show up with facts about peepee when it’s clearly a poopoo thread?

Well, why not?

 

[ChordInversion]

You mean like Fractal, but dumbed down?

(Chiming in despite not being the person you replied to)

Pretty much. It would be super cool, IMO.

 

[paisleywookiee]

(Chiming in despite not being the person you replied to)

Pretty much. It would be super cool, IMO.

So, the AM4.

 

[ChordInversion]

So, the AM4.

Close, yes. But add in a "build mode" to the amp/cab block in which you don't start with any amp in particular.

 

[FuzzyAce]

I just want you nerds to figure it out so I can reap the benefits.

 

[TSJMajesty]

stereo tracked guitars

You mean- 1 signal into 2 amps, possibly different models/brands, or double tracked- play once thru an amp, then play again onto a separate track?

 

[MirrorProfiles]

You mean- 1 signal into 2 amps, possibly different models/brands, or double tracked- play once thru an amp, then play again onto a separate track?

Nah, 2 performances hard panned left and right. Even when I’m able to get models or captures REALLY close the real amps just have a hair more width and liveliness to them

 

[TSJMajesty]

Nah, 2 performances hard panned left and right. Even when I’m able to get models or captures REALLY close the real amps just have a hair more width and liveliness to them

Could it be that in those 2 takes, the amps have 3 different mics, so a total of 6 tracks, maybe 1 or 2 with just a touch of some sort of modulation, etc., etc?

Iow, could it be simply down to the recording techniques used?

Oh shit. You're probably talking about your own. I'll see myself out.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Could it be that in those 2 takes, the amps have 3 different mics, so a total of 6 tracks, maybe 1 or 2 with just a touch of some sort of modulation, etc., etc?

Iow, could it be simply down to the recording techniques used?

Oh shit. You're probably talking about your own. I'll see myself out.

Ha I usually just single mic, but I think it’s probably down to voltages and valves and temperature all being a bit inconsistent. It’s not like the digital ones sound bad at all, but you just get a bit more magic without having to think about that stuff with the real thing.

 

[Digital Igloo]

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[Orvillain]

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