Line 6 Stadium `Knobs` ?
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MirrorProfiles
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Kind of reminds me of these old PodXT knobs:
I don't mind the look of them too much, they have the marker line, the bar on the outside and the value read out. I do wish more effort was made with how they're presented though - its still ultimately ALL of the controls dumped on the screen as a list (like with the sliders) where you have to search around to find what you need. I wish they were grouped together and more visually distinct, but it's a tough balance to strike with the space and controls available. Its something real amps largely just get right by design, and that more lifelike GUI's can take advantage of (like TMP).
I don't mind the look of them too much, they have the marker line, the bar on the outside and the value read out. I do wish more effort was made with how they're presented though - its still ultimately ALL of the controls dumped on the screen as a list (like with the sliders) where you have to search around to find what you need. I wish they were grouped together and more visually distinct, but it's a tough balance to strike with the space and controls available. Its something real amps largely just get right by design, and that more lifelike GUI's can take advantage of (like TMP).
JiveTurkey
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The Stadium knobs are great in the editor. Mix and match with sliders would be great.
Someoldqueenorother
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I'd rather have a 0-100 numerical range and a slider. The knobs make things look messy.
AlbertA
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This + a less awful color scheme
ian_dissonance
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That red on black is hideous, regardless of the knobs. Doing amp edits on your VirtualBoy from Nintendo.
One important feature of the Stadium knob design is that it not have any inherent color. That way the color follows the block type. That limited Line6's design options so they couldn't use a more conventional appearance for the knobs. There were probably also thinking that people would be so happy to not have sliders that they'd be forgiving of the knob design, which is probably true.
The editor is pretty primitive at this point. Using a single control type for all parameters, no meters, etc. Hopefully it will get some attention soon.
The editor is pretty primitive at this point. Using a single control type for all parameters, no meters, etc. Hopefully it will get some attention soon.
SeeD
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A wobble knob just inside a circle, with a circle marker outside, I find it messy looking. And yeah the dark red on black is not good.
Maybe the red on black makes it harder to read, and not the knobs..hmmm.
I think this is clean and easy to read + switch option is nice to read. At least better colors
Maybe the red on black makes it harder to read, and not the knobs..hmmm.
I think this is clean and easy to read + switch option is nice to read. At least better colors
marshall2553
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Using knobs (or sliders for that matter) makes no sense for the parameters that would normally be a toggle or dropdown. I'm sure using the same UI element for every parameter makes things easier from a dev perspective, but I do hope they have plans to change this.
What's really annoying for me right now is scrolling. Not sure if this is the case on Windows, but when using the touchpad on a Mac if you try to scroll vertically and you accidentally have the pointer anywhere near a knob or slider you just end up changing the value of that parameter.
It's the same annoyance with a scroll wheel on a mouse. I've accidentally corrupted presets that way. Knobs are a little better than sliders because there's less screen real estate where that happens, but they've got a long way to go to get this editor up to the level of the competition.
AlbertA
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I wish but I doubt it - it’s been the UI for the helix editor (sans the knobs) for many years - I doubt they’ll change it.
Yes! Very annoying.
SeeD
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But one thing i hate on my QC is having 3 digits on some knob ( MIX ) settings. Like 12.8 % when it it goes to 100.0
It makes it so much harder to fine tune and to use the HW knobs.
I just need 12% and 13%,and 49% that is all I need to tweak.
This one needs to have tried in real life to get, hehe
It makes it so much harder to fine tune and to use the HW knobs.
I just need 12% and 13%,and 49% that is all I need to tweak.
This one needs to have tried in real life to get, hehe
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paisleywookiee
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Same as the POD Express editor on the phone. Works great. You guys will complain about anything.
SeeD
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2 years ago I got myself a HX Stomp, used it for 2 days, and sold the thing, I can not stand the sliders thing, makes it soo hard to read, and is just like you say a mess to use on screen with a muse, I was scrolling things all the time haha!
SeeD
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Haha, red on red and pink on pink/lavender
With wobbely knobs. The wobble makes my eyes think that is markers
paisleywookiee
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Haha, red on red and pink on pink/lavender
With wobbely knobs. The wobble makes my eyes think that is markers
And yet, really easy to use.
eon
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Not only that, but red on a black background can quickly lead to eye strain and reduced readability for people with astigmatism. Other particularly bad color combinations include blue, purple/magenta, and yellow on a black background.
I wish the editor had a monochrome option/bright theme with black text on a white background.
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This was the first thing I thought of! I remember renting one of those from Blockbuster video
It does look like all of the options all at once which can be messy to some people but comforting to others.
