Line 6 PowerCab CL cabs - NOT FRFR

[paisleywookiee]

Um... it is? On paper at least, it looks like a much more complete product than Fender's line.

(real) Power is about the same for both as well.

It’s not even the same product type. It’s not FRFR.

 

[Frodebro]

No digital. No conversion. No additional latency. Just a great solid cab, a lot of power, good connectivity.

Like the OG Tech 21 powered cabinets…

 

[Lysander]

It’s not even the same product type. It’s not FRFR.

Well i'm a moron, i was looking at the comparison grid for the original Powercabs and their 70Hz - 20kHz frequency response.

Anyway, if these were available back then, i'd probably would have gotten a powered cab with a real speaker instead of a FRFR.

 

[Stone]

As a modeler only user with no live gigging, the Powercabs, work for me I have not changed them for the the Fender or ToneX offerings, I was hoping for an improved PC like adding BMT control on the top which the new CL has, and maybe offer a 10 inch, but this CL is not a FFR

 

[gearJunkie]

... the Powercabs, work for me I have not changed them for the the Fender or ToneX offerings,

I have a pair or CLR Neo wedges for my fractal, but my Helix is still rocking with my PowerCab 212+. It sounds great!

 

[paisleywookiee]

Like the OG Tech 21 powered cabinets…

Like a Fender FR12 that doesn’t lie about its power, and doesn’t require mods from an intrepid guy on the FAS forums.

 

[Stone]

So this works with modelers where you eliminate the cab ir block and just use the built in speaker and you can chose your flavor of speaker, there is no tweeter so its a different type of Powercab for different users

 

[ragingplatypi]

 

[Mikael Dez]

This thread is proof that there tribalism isn’t really a thing in this sub lmfao

I agree this product is a weird one

 

[Fireproof]

Based on the copy on their website (see below) - it looks like they were just trying to slim down the feature set to hit a lower price point in the market. The PC112 CL is about $400 USD less than the original PC112.

And I saw one ad of their’s emphasize “a guitar speaker system for YOUR modeler” which maybe is to target the non-Helix users since it comes without the special L6 link and Helix controls??

The open-back Powercab CL 212 and Powercab CL 112 feature simple controls and are loaded with traditional 12" guitar speakers. They can be used with or without Speaker Voicings that interact with the speakers to make them sound and respond more like one of six legendary guitar speakers. Powercab CL cabs are ideal for both practice and live performance.

The premier Powercab 212 Plus, Powercab 112 Plus, and Powercab 112 speaker systems offer higher power and more extensive control capabilities than CL family cabs. They feature closed-back cabinets, coaxial speakers with high-frequency compression drivers, and can be used as full-range flat-response (FRFR) systems or with one of 12 Speaker Models.

 

[paisleywookiee]

This thread is proof that there tribalism isn’t really a thing in this sub lmfao

I agree this product is a weird one

Yeah I say that as I sit here fiddling with my brand new (2nd) POD Express, and eagerly await my friend’s feedback on the Stadium this weekend at Sweetwater.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

It’s not even the same product type. It’s not FRFR.

I mean…neither was the original.

At least it doesn’t have that curved cab. I didn’t like the way that sounded.

 

[timbuck3]

 

[RGB]

Man...hate to crap in anybody's oatmeal, but that sounds pretty bad to these old ears.

 

[Stone]

Well in a way its good for me no need to sell my current PowerCabs for something new, so thats good

 

[ian_dissonance]

Definitely the best part about this is that I don’t want it, lol. I guess if you have another speaker you like in an open-back cab you can drop it in there and a “real” power amp/cab on stage. I really don’t think anyone asked for this configuration of features.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I mean…neither was the original.

At least it doesn’t have that curved cab. I didn’t like the way that sounded.

It had a flat mode, to run with IR’s. As to its flatness, I do not know.

 

[Lysander]

It had a flat mode, to run with IR’s. As to its flatness, I do not know.

If it's anything like the speakers used in the Catalyst, those are reportedly quite flat by default.

The only issue is guitar speakers having a very limited frequency response range, rolling off at 5Khz or so - so they won't quite do the FRFR/PA thing.

 

[paisleywookiee]

If it's anything like the speakers used in the Catalyst, those are reportedly quite flat by default.

The only issue is guitar speakers having a very limited frequency response range, rolling off at 5Khz or so - so they won't quite do the FRFR/PA thing.

I was referring to the original PowerCabs, which had a flat mode to use with IR’s.

 

[Lysander]

I was referring to the original PowerCabs, which had a flat mode to use with IR’s.

Ah, yes. In fact, i never ever used the speaker sim mode on OG Powercab 112 The flat moded sounded great amplifying my Helix.