Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[sashimi]

I’m guessing he meant Helix Native, but maybe not

 

[Digital Igloo]

Does this mean you’re using some prototype of a future Stadium plugin on your Mac?

Crap. Believe me or don't, but there is currently no working version of Agoura in a plugin. There is currently no Helix Stadium Native (but a betting person could safely infer we'll eventually get there). I honestly just mistyped that; fixed.

EDIT: Damn, I did it twice! Well, I've typed the word "Stadium" so many damn times this week...

 

[Dez]

Crap. Believe me or don't, but there is currently no working version of Agoura in a plugin. There is currently no Helix Stadium Native (but a betting person could safely infer we'll eventually get there). I honestly just mistyped that; fixed.

No worries!

 

[Blix]

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

it's so much easier to just use plugins like Helix Stadium.

I KNEW IT!!!

 

[Digital Igloo]

I KNEW IT!!!

Sadly, it was a Digital-Igloo's-feverish-typing-resulted-in-typo mistake. But yes, we would LOVE to make a Stadium-compatible plugin; just got a lot of other things on our plate right now.

 

[JiveTurkey]

 

[Sascha Franck]

They want to buy a modeler, and they want it to sound like the heavens from the first chord.

I agree with both you and @MirrorProfiles - but on a unit with literally endless amounts of presets, anything and anything in between should be somewhat doable.

Anyhow, I think a great block preset library would be a welcomed addition (in case there are block presets). Would allow people to explore any kind of somewhat complexed blocks a bit faster in context without loading a completely new preset.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Sadly, it was a Digital-Igloo's-feverish-typing-resulted-in-typo mistake. But yes, we would LOVE to make a Stadium-compatible plugin; just got a lot of other things on our plate right now.

I know. I just had to rib you on that one and give something for us to obsess over for the next 15 minutes.

 

[Blix]

 

[AlbertA]

I know. I just had to rib you on that one and give something for us to obsess over for the next 15 minutes.

getting ready for another 60 pages

 

[Dez]

Honestly the future release of a plugin is huge but I just don’t like turning my Mac on if I don’t have to - I can wait.

 

[Sascha Franck]

are the touchscreens different between say android and apple?

Depends on the Android device, but out of the Samsungs I owned (some S models, now a lesser A55, plus some Tab A things), none of them could compete with Apple's screens. For any kind of daily usage, it might not matter, but once you're dialing in more delicate things, it does.
Just around 1 week ago I had an opportunity to A/B the very same (HTML based) IEM mixing app on a higher end Samsung tablet and a not even all new iPad and the difference was quite notable. The iPad registered my finger position every bit how I imagined it would whereas the Samsung felt kinda sluggish in comparison.
I think that's something Apple has really nailed.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

The older I get the less patient I become. Damn, I wish all future Helix Stadium products were available from day one. I really want the new features, but I‘m pretty sure the floor version just isn‘t the right thing for my use case. I need something that either fits on my desk or in my DAW. But I also don‘t want to wait several years for the Stadium SKU that suits my needs best.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

getting ready for another 60 pages

Anything to keep this thread going. We have until "fall" and it's not even "sommer" here yet.

 

[Frodebro]

Fwiw, re: Clips

Just as pretty much anyone else, I absolutely like to hear some stuff. But in this very case, pretty much anything else related to the release is much, much more relevant to me.
I mean, while I'm still wondering about some details, while I still (or already) think that certain things possibly could've been done differently (but I won't judge about any of these until there's more information), for me it's still absolutely stunning just how much Line 6 apparently raised the bar regarding all things usability. It's by *far* the most appealing thing with these new units until now. Even so much that I'd say, even if it was only these improvements alone, it'd justify the higher price (or trading any older unit in favour of a Stadium).

So, for me clips (or ideally: first hand experience) almost would be just the icing on the cake (a very welcomed icing, though).

I agree 100%. I have an OG Helix Floor, and I know that the amps sounds I like are in there, so that’s a moot point for me. It’s the usability stuff that has really piqued my interest. I’m not interested in captures or recording on unit, but signal routing, switching and stuff like that is what makes or breaks it for me.

 

[molul]

Honestly the future release of a plugin is huge but I just don’t like turning my Mac on if I don’t have to - I can wait.

I hear you, man. For the last 3 years my way to play at home has been turning my Mac on, opening Studio One and load Helix Native. Not insufferable, but as it's the same desktop where I remotely work, lately I've gradually played less and less.

That's about to change in a month, when I finally buy a Fender FR12 that will be in a separate room. So much looking forward to it.

I love Native, but I'll only use it for recording demos or final guitar tracks. For casual playing, immediacy is key.

 

[HomespunEffects]

... it's not even "sommer" here yet.

 

[molul]

I asked this in a previous post, not sure if here or in the Stadium thread, but it got lost and I'd like to know: do you people know if Helix LT's 1/4" output is balanced?

As my knowledge about audio is very basic, the question would actually be: if I plug a 6m TRS 1/4" cable to that output, may I assume no signal would be lost, as when using a 6m XLR cable in the XLR output?

And if it is balanced, is there any downside to using a TRS cable?

 

[Frodebro]

I asked this in a previous post, not sure if here or in the Stadium thread, but it got lost and I'd like to know: do you people know if Helix LT's 1/4" output is balanced?

As my knowledge about audio is very basic, the question would actually be: if I plug a 6m TRS 1/4" cable to that output, may I assume no signal would be lost, as when using a 6m XLR cable in the XLR output?

And if it is balanced, is there any downside to using a TRS cable?

In basic terms, a balanced 1/4” output is the same as an XLR output, only with different connectors. So a balanced 1/4” output requires a TRS cable to work as an actual balanced output, but that also requires the device at the other end of the cable to have a 1/4” balanced input as well.