molul
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1No.
In any kind of arts, AI should have no place. There's sufficient paintings, music, statues (etc.) and makers of all of those to supply us for eternity already.
If you can't create presets yourself, that means you're not exactly mastering the tools you're using.
Maybe. But maybe you'd profit more from learning a DAW. And in case you want interaction, look for other musicians.
It depends on a simple thing: if you use AI to create a whole song or album and put your name on it, you're no artist. But if you use AI as any other tool to speed up mechanical stuff (like creating a preset), the result is still yours.
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There's a difference between using AI without knowing your device at all, and using it knowing it (a decent amount of it) and prefer spending just 1 minute dialing an AI-generated preset instead of 10 minutes just clicking buttons and rotating encoders to reach the same place.
If the preset sounds great, and the song you used it in sounds great, what's the problem? It's not a real song unless you did the 100.00% of it? What about making the drums with a drums plugin or a drum machine instead of playing acoustic drums yourself? What about making a sequence of loops instead of recording a drum pad played by yourself? What about using a harmonizer to record a harmonized solo instead of recording both the melody and the harmony? And what about hiring a guy to play drums in your song? You can't call it your song because you didn't do everything?
A few decades ago, electronic music wasn't considered real music for being created with machines. In the end, the world understood it's the music what matters.
3 What if you don't find enough talented musicians, with enough spare time, enough money for basic equipment, easy going, committed, etc, to play with? What if you, either forever or just for a long time, can't commit to playing with other people but still want to jam for a little while from time to time?
You're too much black or white on everything. There's a huge gray in between with so many good things to be had.
It's fine to be worried about people who have spent 1/100th of the time you've spent learning music and all related things making things that are perceived as just as good or better than anything you've done, but A) it's coming and it's unavoidable, and B) it's not like current music scene is the best in history anyway.
I don't think a guy being able to play with an interactive AI-generated jam band, or creating a preset with a prompt, will be the beginning of the end of music. Music will be killed by the industry stopping to sign human artists and just uploading loads of AI-generated music to Spotify that will be listened by millions of people and create huge revenue (and this will come in less than 10 years). And what the heck, music as an art was killed by the industry so long ago.
We who value "higher stuff" in art are the minority. Most people already just care more about non-art related things like being good looking, or viral, or having been in a talent or reality show... We who still remember how it was before, know that music shouldn't be forced not to be longer than 3:30 to be successful, but new generations don't have this perspective, and the future people is who will decide what music will be successful (!= good)
Imagine I'm the person who knows Helix Stadium the most: what's the problem with creating a preset starting with an AI prompt instead of making 50-100 clicks and rotating encoders 36000 degrees?If you need AI to dial in sounds on what is supposed to be the easiest to use modeler in the universe; I'd probably just go ahead and stop playing guitar altogether.
You know what you want, but you just want to reach faster. If you do know your device, you will modify any AI-generated preset.
You're just thinking of the guy who doesn't know the device he's using, but there are much more use cases.
And any way: what's the problem if your guitarist comes to a rehearsal with an AI-only-generated preset and you write the song of your lives out of a jam where he was using that preset? It's not real music because AI had a very small part on it?
For what is worth, I'm not cheering for bad stuff that will come with AI (and it will), but rejecting a technology won't prevent it from coming. Being it unavoidable, why not thinking about the advantages you could legitimately take from it?Yup. The fact that we’ve got people cheering for the Black Mirror episode to become real life is disheartening, but not surprising.
I hate social media. I only open mine to tell people about a new gig of recording. But even hating them, I have to admit it has brought some new listeners I wouldn't have reached to without them.
It's ok to be worried about new technology. But saying it's only bringing bad stuff is just ignorant, and something that hasn't happened with any other previous new tech. And glorifying old stuff just because it's what you were born with (like only using books for help on programming) is just... that you're getting old xD
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