Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

Frodebro said:
Sadly, the squirrel died in a tragic firmware incident.
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mikah912 said:
Agreed. If you like Trainwreck clips where a guy has it cranked in a room with a real cab, I don't see how you can compare any digital iteration unless you're running it through the exact same set up. And if you do that, then the real power amp and cab are likely factoring more into what you're hearing that whatever algorithm.
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There's this one video (can't seem to be able to find it right now) where that one guy is playing an SG. The sound is pretty glorious, but it seemed to be running at incredibly loud volume. Which obviously is changing a whole lot of things. Might not even be about real cab vs. whatever FR thingies, sheer volume turns any amp experience into something completely different due to the interaction of volume and guitar.
Same with the videos of Johan Segeborn (that's his name, right?), the guy who is showcasing a whole number of cranked Marshalls while standing pretty close. Especially on lighter or otherwise resonating guitars, that's just a different experience from what you can get in your home studio.
Hence, nothing new here... and fwiw, one of the reasons why I don't like IEM gigs too much. Especially for classic overdriven riffing and amp dynamics, volume is a thing, as much as I wish it was different.
 
Sascha Franck said:
There's this one video (can't seem to be able to find it right now) where that one guy is playing an SG. The sound is pretty glorious, but it seemed to be running at incredibly loud volume. Which obviously is changing a whole lot of things. Might not even be about real cab vs. whatever FR thingies, sheer volume turns any amp experience into something completely different due to the interaction of volume and guitar.
Same with the videos of Johan Segeborn (that's his name, right?), the guy who is showcasing a whole number of cranked Marshalls while standing pretty close. Especially on lighter or otherwise resonating guitars, that's just a different experience from what you can get in your home studio.
Hence, nothing new here... and fwiw, one of the reasons why I don't like IEM gigs too much. Especially for classic overdriven riffing and amp dynamics, volume is a thing, as much as I wish it was different.
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Don't most IEMs have limiters built in to keep users from harming their hearing? That might impact the dynamics one feels—or in this case, doesn't feel.
 
Digital Igloo said:
Don't most IEMs have limiters built in to keep users from harming their hearing?
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Not necessarily (but yes, sometimes they do). And in my case, almost never as I try to bring my own small mixer just for myself whenever possible, running a split signal of my guitar stuff into it, hence muting it on the house's IEM feed. That way, my guitars sound absolutely the same as at home (minus the difference between the used headphones).
 
Yeah quoting myself...

Sascha Franck said:
I try to bring my own small mixer just for myself whenever possible, running a split signal of my guitar stuff into it, hence muting it on the house's IEM feed. That way, my guitars sound absolutely the same as at home (minus the difference between the used headphones).
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If you still follow, @Digital Igloo, this is the very reason why I'd really love to see an option to do that kinda thing straight on the HX units, at least as long as there's a free stereo return (or aux in - but there's none, right?). That return could then be abused to serve as the IEM feed return while you'd monitor your guitar straight. Now that there's an onboard mixer, it should perhaps somehow be possible. I'd certainly love it.
 
Sascha Franck said:
Yeah quoting myself...



If you still follow, @Digital Igloo, this is the very reason why I'd really love to see an option to do that kinda thing straight on the HX units, at least as long as there's a free stereo return (or aux in - but there's none, right?). That return could then be abused to serve as the IEM feed return while you'd monitor your guitar straight. Now that there's an onboard mixer, it should perhaps somehow be possible. I'd certainly love it.
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You can globally repurpose Return 3/4 on Stadium XL (or Return 1/2 on Stadium) to be an always on Aux In that gets fed to its own stereo channel in all three Matrix mixer layers. If you're willing to sacrifice one of Stadium's four stereo paths, you could run a second FOH monitor feed as well, say, for a second band member; it could also get its own Matrix channel.
 
Digital Igloo said:
I'm sure Sound Design will end up making Agoura Line 6 Originals. In the meantime, we shuffled all the existing Line 6 Originals in with all the other amps on Stadium, so they're no longer stuck at the end of the list.

What does it resolve to? At launch, Showcase will only transmit beat clock with or without MIDI > MMC flags (no SPP, MTC, or SMPTE, at least not right away).
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MTC and notes, CC, PC, etc.
 
Digital Igloo said:
You can globally repurpose Return 3/4 on Stadium XL (or Return 1/2 on Stadium) to be an always on Aux In that gets fed to its own stereo channel in all three Matrix mixer layers. If you're willing to sacrifice one of Stadium's four stereo paths, you could run a second FOH monitor feed as well, say, for a second band member; it could also get its own Matrix channel.
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Oh wow, that's cool!
And can you adjust the FOH feed so that it doesn't get the signal of that aux return but just the processed guitar signal? I assume it'll be possible, as from how I understand it, the HP out has its own mixer layer, right?
 
Sascha Franck said:
Oh wow, that's cool!
And can you adjust the FOH feed so that it doesn't get the signal of that aux return but just the processed guitar signal? I assume it'll be possible, as from how I understand it, the HP out has its own mixer layer, right?
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As with HX Stomp/XL and POD Go/Express, Stadium's Aux In appears post-processing, so it's dry. If you sacrifice a path for additional FOH feeds they'll be processed by any blocks you have on those paths (which could be beneficial).

The Matrix mixer has an overall bus channel for the Home screen, but you can expand it to access all four individual stereo paths. Same with the overall Song bus channel and individual stereo tracks. And again, this is per-output, so the 1/4", XLRs, and Phones can have completely different mixes (or you can gang two—or all three—outputs).
 
Digital Igloo said:
No MTC but yeah, flags can spit out CCs, PCs, and MIDI notes.
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Sickkkk. Sooo....

click track on one track going to a drummer.
Synth tracks going to FOH and IEM's.
Flags triggering various bits of video footage and possibly lights as well, in time with the song?????
 
Orvillain said:
Sickkkk. Sooo....

click track on one track going to a drummer.
Synth tracks going to FOH and IEM's.
Flags triggering various bits of video footage and possibly lights as well, in time with the song?????
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While automating all your effects and snapshot changes. Yes, please.
 
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