Kemper Profiler MK 2

[crispsandwich]

Well, maybe he just had a bad day then - I kinda "met" the guy many moons back (when Frankfurt Musikmesse was still a thing). In quotes because I actually just listened to him talking to a smaller group of folks I was among and instantly didn't feel like getting involved.
And honestly, the way their forum is operated doesn't exactly speak for them, either (no idea how much of an impact he has, though).

To say someone is creepy (which implies something worse, we all know it) without any evidence is really not on.

 

[Chocol8]

Or anything relying on power tube distortion

Or anything where distortion occurs in more than one stage.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Guessing the forum poster formerly known as GuitarJon isn’t too impressed with V2 profiles

 

[Chocol8]

every modeler has its own flavor.

I don't think that's true of Tonex/NAM/QC. There's nothing characteristic to the platform you can detect across captures like the mid hump of Kemper MKI.

 

[Chocol8]

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Guessing the forum poster formerly known as GuitarJon isn’t too impressed with V2 profiles

That was a pretty predictable result. You would have to be really tied to the Kemper ecosystem to chose it over the QC these days.

 

[Sascha Franck]

To say someone is creepy (which implies something worse, we all know it) without any evidence is really not on.

As said, I've seen the guy in person and I've read some stuff. Add the way they treat some things and I don't think "creepy" is much of an offense.

 

[RiffDuck]

I don't think that's true of Tonex/NAM/QC. There's nothing characteristic to the platform you can detect across captures like the mid hump of Kemper MKI.

Yeah I think captures are a bit tougher to gauge there - unless someone has captured the same exact signal chain for each one back to back maybe? I stand by my opinion on modelers though

 

[Tanax]

That was a pretty predictable result. You would have to be really tied to the Kemper ecosystem to chose it over the QC these days.

I don't think Jon tried profile V2, at least he doesn't have a video on it. Maybe he did try it and thought it wasn't good enough for a video, but that's difficult for us to know, unless he posts about it.

 

[Chocol8]

unless someone has captured the same exact signal chain for each one back to back maybe?

Been there done that with multiple amps, as have plenty of others. Kemper (MKI) is the only one that stood out as having a character.

 

[Chocol8]

I don't think "creepy" is much of an offense.

In standard US English usage "creepy" suggests sexual offenses.

 

[RiffDuck]

Been there done that with multiple amps, as have plenty of others. Kemper (MKI) is the only one that stood out as having a character.

Lol I could absolutely see this being the case, my own Kemper has been in the closet for many moons now. Good to know!

 

[Richard_G]

Except for high gain. Otherwise, it’s super.

Or anything relying on power tube distortion

Or anything where distortion occurs in more than one stage.

The scope seems pretty limited, then…

 

[RiffDuck]

The scope seems pretty limited, then…

Well a Kemper can at least still offer a tasteful Forest Green decorative supplementation to your room's "country modern" color scheme. Much like a house plant.

 

[Mongillo19]

Well a Kemper can at least still offer a tasteful Forest Green decorative supplementation to your room's "country modern" color scheme. Much like a house plant.

DONT YOU DARE BESMIRCH KEMPER GREEN

 

[ChordInversion]

In standard US English usage "creepy" suggests sexual offenses.

This makes me seriously rethink descriptions of the haunted house I heard friends talk about going to last Halloween. And they took their kids!

 

[Richard_G]

DONT YOU DARE BESMIRCH KEMPER GREEN

And then one of the few things that was actually changed in the Mk 2 hardware was the colour scheme, right?

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Well a Kemper can at least still offer a tasteful Forest Green decorative supplementation to your room's "country modern" color scheme. Much like a house plant.

Thought it was black only now?

 

[RiffDuck]

Thought it was black only now?

Oh yeah, so it's a house rock then. Very "Rustic Modern" for an interior decoration, which is totally in style right now

 

[Orvillain]

In standard US English usage "creepy" suggests sexual offenses.

That's not what it means in the UK or EU. It can of course. But it can also be meant as someone who is a bit weird, makes your skin crawl because they might be an axe murderer.

That's probably what Sascha meant.

And to that I say.. hurrr durrrr takes one to know one!

 

[[Nathan]]

Been there done that with multiple amps, as have plenty of others. Kemper (MKI) is the only one that stood out as having a character.

Yeah it makes sense. The kemper has underlying models or saturation/drive styles and is then doing a bunch of EQ matching to the source. Those models cant magically create something from nothing or change their fundamental character.

A dumbed down version of the wavenet stuff is its starting from a blank slate and taking 1000 informed guesses to make the new signal sound like the source signal, there is no base characteristic or anything. I know you know this cause youre a NAM nerd but its still nice to lay it out and logically look at it.