Kemper Profiler MK 2

[Dom Mcsweeney]

People capturing with a cheap $100 audio interface aren't going to produce "pro" level profiles.

what is a "pro" level profile?

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

You're a cheap date.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I've heard MK1 Kemper profiles that demolish QC and Helix Stadium

I very much doubt that.

 

[Orvillain]

To each their own, but until 2.0 has a chance to be compared to the others we still really don't know. Don't trust YouTube videos or influencers. The reason Michael Britt profiles typically sound the best in a mix is because he is also a touring musician.

I will say, for amp tones it's a wash between all of the companies at this point. I've heard MK1 Kemper profiles that demolish QC and Helix Stadium, and I've also heard the exact opposite. How good the Kemper sounds depends so much on the user, what mic's they used, how they placed them, what preamps were used, etc. People capturing with a cheap $100 audio interface aren't going to produce "pro" level profiles. QC and Helix come with models so they have other avenues.

For effects, I'm sorry - Kemper leads by a considerable amount. Helix is second, QC is a far third.

Honestly, it is this kind of fanboyism that just gets up people's noses.

 

[guitarsandcoffee]

Honestly, it is this kind of fanboyism that just gets up people's noses.

Call it what you will. A month ago I was in this forum saying goodbye to Kemper and dropping loads of unhappiness and criticism. I'm just giving you my experience across platforms. Take it, or leave it.

 

[OneEng]

what is a "pro" level profile?

For me, a great profile (paid or free) is one that works well over different pickup combos and different input levels and feels right even on different guitars.

Now, not even all tube amps manage that, so not sure how fair that is.

I like a profile that has good tone and a good set of efx tastefully applied.

Note, none of my criteria has anything to do with accuracy. It's about how it sounds in the mix for me.

 

[riffy]

Note, none of my criteria has anything to do with accuracy. It's about how it sounds in the mix for me.

What kind of mix? You and I have probably very different ideas of what would fit good in a mix. So that would be a completely subjective thing. Someone that put up a capture that I love you may absolutely hate. And vice versa of course. So I really can’t put my stock in what someone else says sounds good in a mix.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

What kind of mix? You and I have probably very different ideas of what would fit good in a mix. So that would be a completely subjective thing. Someone that put up a capture that I love you may absolutely hate. And vice versa of course. So I really can’t put my stock in what someone else says sounds good in a mix.

I’ll go a step further. IME what works in a mix isn’t the sound I’d like to hear unaccompanied.

 

[[Nathan]]

My overall take is that it’s exactly the same kemper but a little better, cool. Don’t see it magically winning anyone over, but if you’re in that ecosystem already then it’s a nice fidelity boost.

Capture accuracy wise, based on the underlying capture tech I wouldn’t even expect it to attain a “perfect capture”. It will always get close but has no chance of being perfect. It has other merits like being a complete unit, liquid profiling etc.

Keen to see what proxy brings

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

mixing engineer:

*the mix*

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

guitarist: [pays random pros on the internet all their money for pro mix ready IRs and pro mix ready captures....]

the mixing engineer: uses a DI box and mixes with completely different tones, and invoices for their time anyway