Kemper Profiler MK 2

[Ed DeGenaro]

AxeFX2 to 2Mk2 didn't take 14 years.

That's the problem. I was interested in getting the new toaster, when in my mind surely it would utilize better profiling on-device, a better UI/better screen, better effects, fix the aliasing issue, run two captures at once, etc. After all, it's been 14 years. Lots of time for R&D.

But here we are. That's why I'm so critical of it. It's a milquetoast upgrade for the time they've had, IMO. And as much as I love the Helix shit, if they come out with a "Double Helix 2" and it just adds something minor, after 10 years, I'll be just as critical.

That’s fine. Me I’m not in the market and immune to marketing BS do I don’t get to bend over it.

 

[Sascha Franck]

So what do y'all use morphing for? On Kemper or something else.

Back in the Helix days I used it to morph between two meaningless states of bubbling delay/reverb washes.

No, seriously, I really tried to use it to smoothly blend between some rhythm and lead patch. Also tried it on some pseudo-synth-ish stuff but that didn't work out so well as the filters in the HX-ecoverse aren't sufficient to get me where I'd like to go. Also wanted to blend between a more guitar-ish touch wah rhythm tone and a kinda synth-lead. That actually was working pretty damn well, just that I wasn't happy with the core tones (and dynamic reaction) of the filters. I'm sure some modifiers (input level -> filter cutoff) could've adressed that nicely, so in FAS land I'd likely be all over it.
And I really used it to bring in some bubbling autofilter madness running through some delays with the feedback going up the more I opened the pedal. That's been a pretty nice patch.
Regardless, all of those involved several modulations to happen at the same time and it's been quite a PITA to set them up - and even more of a PITA to keep track of the mess the more modulations I added.

 

[Jarick]

So what do y'all use morphing for? On Kemper or something else.

It's useful to dial between a pretty dry tone and one that has a lot of effects. Andy Wood for instance will put his delay repeats on an expression pedal. With morphing you can do the same thing but control a bunch of different parameters, like delay mix level, feedback level, increase reverb mix, and increase something like chorus mix amount. So you can go from a pretty dry tone and roll the expression pedal into a really wet tone.

Fractal can do all that, but with Kemper it's way easier and more intuitive. You turn on morphing and then adjust the parameter where you want it, and then both the morph and unmorph settings are stored. Kind of like how with Helix if you build a patch and want to assign the effects to footswitches, you could probably do all that in about 3 seconds with capacitive touch, where Fractal you have to dive into deep edit pages to assign per preset switching and overrides and all that.

 

[Deadpan]

This is the first I've heard of this. What is the specific issue?

Not sure why but:

 

[Deleted member 1726]

Not sure why but:

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It's Boss, so...

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

Mesa Boogies have to much damn Waza for the Boss TAE to handle.

 

[Orvillain]

 

[Sascha Franck]

Boss and Boogie share the letters "Bo". That's why.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

So what do y'all use morphing for? On Kemper or something else.

Mostly for arguing on the internet.

I use scenes or snapshots with modifiers on the Line6/Fractal devices. Mostly just effect or amp parameter changes between scenes or attached to a switch. If I was using Kemper morphing, it would amount to the same thing. I have no use for slowly morphing something from one state to another.

 

[ian_dissonance]

Mostly for arguing on the internet.

I use scenes or snapshots with modifiers on the Line6/Fractal devices. Mostly just effect or amp parameter changes between scenes or attached to a switch. If I was using Kemper morphing, it would amount to the same thing. I have no use for slowly morphing something from one state to another.

Yeah, if you’re just using it to quickly move from one state to the other it’s not a useful feature. My buddy had a morph preset with the pitch shifter where it would just do a steady rise when you held the switch and fade in delay feedback. It was fun.

 

[quadgear]

You don't seem to get that morphing involves an expression pedal. It is not typically a timed ramp or an instantaneous switch.

That's just one, rigid use of morphing. IMHO proscribing how a feature should be used and ignoring the greater capability is unfortunate.

 

[Sascha Franck]

That's just one, rigid use of morphing. IMHO proscribing how a feature should be used and ignoring the greater capability is unfortunate.

What exactly would be that "greater capability"?

 

[Antipodes]

That's just one, rigid use of morphing. IMHO proscribing how a feature should be used and ignoring the greater capability is unfortunate.

My intention was not to proscribe anything - I was responding to all this stuff about snapshots which seemed to be viewing Kemper morph function as an inferior version of the Fractal/Line 6 approach to snapshots.

 

[paisleywookiee]

That’s fine. Me I’m not in the market and immune to marketing BS do I don’t get to bend over it.

I'd rather not get bent over anything, tbh.

 

[quadgear]

What exactly would be that "greater capability"?

There are many other uses of morph

• Multiple "profiles" (not kemper profiles) per preset ala Fractal.
• A/B comparisons of a preset
• Versions of a preset for different guitars
• Volume leveling support
• An alternative way to have two presets on a single footswitch

 

[LP59]

My intention was not to proscribe anything - I was responding to all this stuff about snapshots which seemed to be viewing Kemper morph function as an inferior version of the Fractal/Line 6 approach to snapshots.

Just to be clear, I started this not to say anybody is inferior to anybody else. I was only saying that Kemper is not the only modeler with morphing, which is what OneEng1 claimed.

Anybody who is taking this into a "A is better than B" or "A is easier than than B" is starting a new thread of discussion, which is cool, but that's not what I said.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

What exactly would be that "greater capability"?

Well while I lived in fractal land I had an expression pedal set up to go between loaded down amp with sauce to stereo amp models with different sauce and varying parameters of fx before amp

By definition it can’t happen in Kemper since it’ll only do one profile.

But I’ll take the user friendliness of the Kemper on that any day.

 

[Mongillo19]

We can do it, 100 pages here we come!

 

[Orvillain]

I'd rather not get bent over anything, tbh.

I'll return the flight tickets then. Pffft.

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