Kemper Profiler MK 2

[JiveTurkey]

I know some have had success putting the Kone speaker in a "real cab" housing. But at that point, why not just use the real cab?

The Kone is best with imprints. If you're doing that, use the F12x speaker. I gave up on those a long while back. Kinda like the Kemper

 

[ian_dissonance]

I don't know so much about the Kone. I've wanted an "FRFR" that feels "like a cab". Considering their stated improvements to cabinet impulses, I wonder if this can mean eventual improvements to so-called "imprints" as well.

I’m digging the FR212/EVH Hypersonic quite a bit. Fun speakers.

 

[Mongillo19]

The Kone is best with imprints. If you're doing that, use the F12x speaker. I gave up on those a long while back. Kinda like the Kemper

This thread isn't bringing you back?

 

[JiveTurkey]

This thread isn't bringing you back?

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

 

[Lysander]

I’m digging the FR212/EVH Hypersonic quite a bit. Fun speakers.

This. Get a FR-10/12, run a 1x12" IR through and it will absolutely fool you into believing you're listening to a guitar cab.

Problem is, it will never fool you into believing you're listening to a 4x12" stack.

 

[ian_dissonance]

This. Get a FR-10/12, run a 1x12" IR through and it will absolutely fool you into believing you're listening to a guitar cab.

Problem is, it will never fool you into believing you're listening to a 4x12" stack.

Definitely, but it will move air like a guitar cab without ruining your DI tone. The FR12 tilted back can absolutely hang with a banging drummer and bassist. I haven’t turned the 212 past 6 yet other than for fun.

 

[JiveTurkey]

This. Get a FR-10/12, run a 1x12" IR through and it will absolutely fool you into believing you're listening to a guitar cab.

Problem is, it will never fool you into believing you're listening to a 4x12" stack.

Its as good as you are going to get as far avoiding a real cab and sticking with IRs goes.

 

[Orvillain]

This. Get a FR-10/12, run a 1x12" IR through and it will absolutely fool you into believing you're listening to a guitar cab.

Problem is, it will never fool you into believing you're listening to a 4x12" stack.

Agreed. The only thing that sounds like a 4x12 stack is .... a 4x12 stack.

IMHO if you want that sound, you get a Marshall 4x12 1960 and slap some Celestion Vintage Century speakers in it. Lightweight (lighter than some 2x12's !!!) and will sound absolutely fan-fucking-tastic!

 

[paisleywookiee]

The Kone is best with imprints. If you're doing that, use the F12x speaker. I gave up on those a long while back. Kinda like the Kemper

STOP SHITTING ON IT, BRO

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

This thread.

Kemper sounds fine, it’s not 100% accurate but it’s a good complete package. I reckon the going rate for the used ones are a bit of a bargain right now.

The Mkii looks rubbish, just more of the same with a mild facelift. Why didn’t they all include Bluetooth and WiFi support and variable impedence? Lazy ass fuckers.

Interesting to see some who are happy to flog profiles even if they’re a load of inaccurate shite, mental note not to buy from them ever.

And also I know it’s a gear forum but come on, that last 5% of a bull test doesn’t really mean shit.

 

[paisleywookiee]

This. Get a FR-10/12, run a 1x12" IR through and it will absolutely fool you into believing you're listening to a guitar cab.

Problem is, it will never fool you into believing you're listening to a 4x12" stack.

Yeah I stopped worrying about the forbidden in the room topic as soon as I played the Laneys. Fenders are the same way (would love to compare them next to each other).

 

[JiveTurkey]

Yeah I stopped worrying about the forbidden in the room topic as soon as I played the Laneys. Fenders are the same way (would love to compare them next to each other).

I'd love to try one of those Laneys as well.

 

[ian_dissonance]

No amount of deflection or martyrdom or insults is going to change the fact that people are projecting their requirements on others and getting pissed off that other people have different requirements and preferences.

FFS nobody besides the people skewing the conversation even mentioned their preference or use case, lol.
People - “There are better profilers for amp cloning available”
Kemper Huggers “OK but most people don’t even clone their own amps. Do those others have the FX? What about morph? What about Kone? What about I don’t care if it’s as accurate? What about we haven’t even heard MkII profiling? What about some people might prefer the inaccurate profile? What about this sound clip where the two sounds are so obviously different you can hear it on a phone speaker? Huh?! What about all that?!?!”
People - “Cool, there are more accurate amp profiling options available right now.”
Kemper Huggers - “BUT WHAT ABOUT……”

That is literally the conversation. Literally.

 

[Mongillo19]

I'd love to try one of those Laneys as well.

I had one and it was quite good! I think I preferred the CLR though.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I had one and it was quite good! I think I preferred the CLR though.

Did you feel it (gulp) "accurately" reflected the tone you dialed in? The FR12 is VERY solid in that regard (studio monitors to FR12 to wedges to the PA).

 

[Mongillo19]

Did you feel it (gulp) "accurately" reflected the tone you dialed in? The FR12 is VERY solid in that regard (studio monitors to FR12 to wedges to the PA).

It was awhile ago so I can't say for certain. Id say it wasn't a direct 1:1 to be honest. IIRC it also had different modes and it really tried to emulate a real 1x12 or 4x12.

It was a super sturdy piece of gear though and did sound quite good! Hard to believe they are $900 now though. I want to say I got one for about $400-$500.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I don't know so much about the Kone. I've wanted an "FRFR" that feels "like a cab". Considering their stated improvements to cabinet impulses, I wonder if this can mean eventual improvements to so-called "imprints" as well.

What fRFR does? None. Kone comes the closest though.

I had zero interest in it until a friend I view as my worst influence told me how much he dug it.
As with all the shit because of him I got it thinking I’d return it in the 30 day window.
Hasn’t happened once.

And in this case it makes the Kemper nearly as much fun as amp n cab.

And while I’m at it (and to lazy to start a separate post) the fanboism with Kemper is nowhere near the level of L6 or Fractal around here.

 

[JiveTurkey]

What "FRFR" does? None. Kone comes the closest though.

I had zero interest in it until a friend I view as my worst influence told me how much he dug it.
As with all the shit because of him I got it thinking I’d return it in the 30 day window.
Hasn’t happened once.

And in this case it makes the Kemper nearly as much fun as amp n cab.

And while I’m at it (and to lazy to start a separate post) the fanboism with Kemper is nowhere near the level of L6 or Fractal around here.

Its all about the Accepted Products list, Ed!

 

[Orvillain]

FFS nobody besides the people skewing the conversation even mentioned their preference or use case, lol.
People - “There are better profilers for amp cloning available”
Kemper Huggers “OK but most people don’t even clone their own amps. Do those others have the FX? What about morph? What about Kone? What about I don’t care if it’s as accurate? What about we haven’t even heard MkII profiling? What about some people might prefer the inaccurate profile? What about this sound clip where the two sounds are so obviously different you can hear it on a phone speaker? Huh?! What about all that?!?!”
People - “Cool, there are more accurate amp profiling options available right now.”
Kemper Huggers - “BUT WHAT ABOUT……”

That is literally the conversation. Literally.

Throw a few jihadi crusading christian cunt accusations in there, and you've about got the size of it.