I bought a player fairly recently, Im bashing myself haha.
People constantly rushing to defend a company that doesn't even know they exist is always interesting to me.
Conversely, companies that don't take feedback from actual paying customers in forums like this are just as interesting. Do you know how much trouble and cost it is for companies in other sectors to get actual market research and legitimate customer feedback, they would kill to have something like the popular guitar forums. Pretty sure Line 6 did a hell of a lot of note taking the past decade @Digital Igloo is in every main Helix thread across all of them.
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IMO, the M-series are incredible in terms of usability. They're in fact kinda like what I wish had made its way into some newer offerings. Lotsa switches, lotsa knobs - and I even forgive them for using standard pots instead of endless encoders because there's been proper readouts.
If anything, I really kinda regret selling my M-13, but back then my plans for a larger setup were different. And unfortunately, the switches weren't exactly military grade (had to replace two of them, fortunately I found a completely broken M-13 for cheap).
Also, there's certainly a reason why you will still find them on many professional boards, some of the FX sound just great. I still prefer some of them over the newer ones and was very happy when Line 6 added them to the HX line (the Vetta Comp is in each and every of my presets ever since I re-discovered it).
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paisleywookiee
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I’ve spent the last 6 months touting that I have a QC and engaging in that thread - even though I think it’s the most hated device on this forum I never once received any sort of hate or bashing from anyone
Actually, I don’t think it’s the most hated; I think there’s things people like and don’t like, however most aren’t a super big fan of the way the company itself works. And I think that’s a pretty pragmatic way of looking at any of this stuff.
Sure, we can be smartasses or whatever, but it’s WAY different than TGP, a place so toxic I literally asked to be deleted.
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I had an M5 I got just for Reverse Delay and ended up using the thing all over the place. Only reason I traded it was because the guy who wanted it had the exact year/model as my first guitar that I’d been trying to track down for years.
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I’ve spent the last 6 months touting that I have a QC and engaging in that thread - even though I think it’s the most hated device on this forum I never once received any sort of hate or bashing from anyone
We could easily change that any moment soon.
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Hey I sold it
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Hey I sold it
Sascha Franck
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Hey I sold it
Booh! Ok, let's start bashing you for selling the QC!
paisleywookiee
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Did you just……make a joke?
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paisleywookiee
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Yes, and it is a German joke so it doesn’t even have to be funny.
No I’m just impressed with the effort!
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You can map an expression pedal to a control with fewer mouse clicks on an AxeFX than on a Kemper. That doesn't mean anything is wrong with a Kemper, so I wouldn't call it bashing, it just refutes the claim that the Kemper does that "light years" better than an AxeFX.
In a 100 page thread, there's bound to be some negative comments, but I don't think there's been more than a handful of those. This seems like an overreaction IMHO.
paisleywookiee
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@Tanax if you’re going to bitch about us here, bitch about us over at TGP, maybe this isn’t the place for you? I don’t get it. Seems like the effort’s not worth it, if you’re not happy here.
Life’s too short. It’s just an Internet forum.
Life’s too short. It’s just an Internet forum.
Kemper Player - Tonex ongoing debate
Cool. When I was an AX8 user, I got ridiculed by Cliff and a bunch of his sycophants for pointing out a difficulty I was having accessing a feature directly from the unit. Then I made the mistake of bringing up the line 6 user interface, and was immediately banned. Great folks over there...
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Just tell the TGP Nazis he’s over here complaining about over there and they’ll probably give him a timeout, lol.
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Yeah, Kemper SUCKS!!!
paisleywookiee
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But not the users. Unless…..they suck for entirely unrelated reasons, which is totally possible, but outside the scope of this thread.
Seems like mostly a difference of opinion on what matters.
There seems to be a majority on this forum who consider capture accuracy the single most important part of a digital amp. Then there are those in the minority that care more about usability at a gig and overall tone (including efx) .... which mostly could care less if the capture is accurate.
I personally find it endearing that Orvillian adopted my pet name for him. I honestly didn't expect him to get it at all, so he surprised me.
I agree that the MK2 as a piece of hardware is uninspiring. I suspect that it was a VERY low cost update that allowed them to call it "MK2" and ring up some sales and media attention prior to the end of the world (ie Stadium announcement).
If Kemper does up their game with the capture accuracy, I see them continuing to have success with the gigging and touring crowd. Kemper is still a rock solid gig machine no matter how you slice it.
My big beef (which I will be totally vocal about) will be if MK1 users are NOT offered an upgrade to the new capabilities of the MK2. Since the DSP has not changed AT ALL, this is completely within Kemper's ability to do. Shoot, I would even be willing to shell out a few hundred to get them. Perhaps this is the big plan all along? New sales of MK2 may not be that great (beyond the previous MK1 sales rate), but imagine if a big percentage of MK1 users all shelled out a few hundred $$ for the upgrade?
