I want a better recording interface

How many channels do you see yourself needing for both recording and mixing? I don't really see either option RME being a wise choice for you.

For instance, if you intend on running 16 stereo stems out through hardware to mix, you'd need 32 channels of A/D and D/A. If you're going with the MADI face then you'll need something that supports MADI, on its own it has no analog I/O to do what you need (it has 2 in 2 out but you'd presumably need something for your monitors). The UFX only has analog I/O to do like 4 stereo pairs of HW inserts, so you'd need to expand with MADI/ADAT/AES etc.

Whatever you decide to go for would be a fairly considerable expense to do what you have in mind. I'd try and get as much analog I/O as you can in a single device than trying to chain multiple devices together. Doing that is fine if you already have bits of gear that you need to use, but if you're starting from scratch I wouldn't recommend that route.

I think Antelope are pretty dreadful as a company but depending on what you're willing to put up with an Orion (somewhat affordable) or Galaxy (64 channels, but £7000 odd). If you want to go with a better brand (and honestly, I would not recommend Antelope to anybody) then be prepared to spend £10,000+ (and factor in the extras like d-subs, patchbays, racks, cabling, and all the other HW gear itself).

If you're looking at doing stuff expandably, I'd probably look at something Dante based these days as it's a lot more widely adopted than MADI.
I had thought the Behringer rack mixers were capable of these kinds of setups, no? XR16/32...or more like X32? Driver won't be RME, but the I/O is impressive if live band recording with a mic'd drum kit is what folks are thinking

yeah, in our heads we think this stuff is simple and not too pricey...then consider what one actually wants to do and it equals a sizable investment!
 
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I had thought the Behringer rack mixers were capable of these kinds of setups, no? XR16/32...or more like X32? Driver won't be RME, but the I/O is impressive if live band recording with a mic'd drum kit is what folks are thinking

yeah, in our heads we think this stuff is simple and not too pricey...then consider what one actually wants to do and it equals a sizable investment!
No not really. Have you looked into this very much or is it more of a pipe dream?

X32 has 16 inputs and 8 outputs, and some aux channels. Recording an entire band at the same time and dealing with monitor mixes etc is going to push something like that to the limit and if you intend on mixing it all analog you’re not going to have a lot to work with I/O wise.
 
No not really. Have you looked into this very much or is it more of a pipe dream?

X32 has 16 inputs and 8 outputs, and some aux channels. Recording an entire band at the same time and dealing with monitor mixes etc is going to push something like that to the limit and if you intend on mixing it all analog you’re not going to have a lot to work with I/O wise.
oh, no, not for me, I was just reading others saying want to "record my band(s)" comments

I have not looked too deeply, no
 
oooh my bad. For just band recording, it’s probably fine as a kind of all in one box.
oh, ok

I looked a little more deeply last night

I should think these X series recorders should work pretty well for 4/5pc groups at 16x8

seems like plenty for headphone mix possibilities

I didn't look to see if they can slaved to expand IO
 
oh, ok

I looked a little more deeply last night

I should think these X series recorders should work pretty well for 4/5pc groups at 16x8

seems like plenty for headphone mix possibilities

I didn't look to see if they can slaved to expand IO
If I was starting up a studio I’d defenitly look at these also, even if the endgoal is “out of the box”
It’s cheap enough to buy for its preamps/IOs alone, and the onboard mixer solves a lot of problems you may not have the hardware for yet..and your operational from day one.
If you run a Mac, its easy enough to add IOs with “aggregated devices”, not sure windows does something similar.
Behringer also offers sub<200 cards with a s**tload of IOs.
 
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