HOTONE AMPERO STOMP / STAGE NOW " IMPORT " NAM FILES

[BenIfin]

Details here:-

Hotone Stomp / Stage and NAM Import ***

*** Import NAM Files with Ease
Sound Clone technology supports converting NAM files into .clo format for use in your device. This conversion can be done in the latest versions of both the Ampero II desktop software and Ampero II Stage app. The upgraded Sound Clone ensures better preservation of the original NAM tone characteristics while optimizing compatibility with Hotone's digital gear.

As always the proof of the pudding will be in the eating ie: does the import-conversion alter the NAM files tone and sound, and how does it null test compared to the same NAM File in the NAM Player.

Given Hotone's size and relative expertise, one would think it will convert and sound and null test a lot better than the Sonulab and Pocket Master Pedals (?)

Totally Non-Cheesy Official Launch Video

 

[laxu]

Awesome! The captures on their own website were a very mixed bag. This opens it up for so many more.

The capture limit being increased to 30 also gives much more room to experiment.

I have a good NAM capture of my BluGuitar Classic channel so I will try how it compares to Tone Catch.

Might try capturing the Mark V as well.

 

[JCW308]

Details here:-

Hotone Stomp / Stage and NAM Import ***

*** Import NAM Files with Ease
Sound Clone technology supports converting NAM files into .clo format for use in your device. This conversion can be done in the latest versions of both the Ampero II desktop software and Ampero II Stage app. The upgraded Sound Clone ensures better preservation of the original NAM tone characteristics while optimizing compatibility with Hotone's digital gear.

As always the proof of the pudding will be in the eating ie: does the import-conversion alter the NAM files tone and sound, and how does it null test compared to the same NAM File in the NAM Player.

Given Hotone's size and relative expertise, one would think it will convert and sound and null test a lot better than the Sonulab and Pocket Master Pedals (?)

Totally Non-Cheesy Official Launch Video

WOW now this is HUGE! I hope the NAM files use way less CPU than their clone files.

 

[2dor]

So....how do the converted NAM profile sound compared to the source?

 

[wgowwgo]

Dang! Hotone keep adding new features. Kudos to them.

 

[BenIfin]

Awesome! The captures on their own website were a very mixed bag. This opens it up for so many more.

The capture limit being increased to 30 also gives much more room to experiment.

I have a good NAM capture of my BluGuitar Classic channel so I will try how it compares to Tone Catch.

Might try capturing the Mark V as well.

Would be very interesting to hear your thoughts on how your NAM capture of your BluGuitar Classic channel played back in NAM Player -compares sound and tone wise- to the same NAM Capture being imported-and-converted into the Hotone (?).

WOW now this is HUGE! I hope the NAM files use way less CPU than their clone files.

So....how do the converted NAM profile sound compared to the source?

^^ These are the "$64,000 questions" as they say :) If the importation and conversion process of the NAM file into the Hotone format makes zero [or audibly zero] tonal and sound difference when compared to playing the same NAM Capture via the NAM Player ... this could very well almost overnight become "the" NAM box everyone has wanted and been waiting on for so long.

 

[laxu]

Would be very interesting to hear your thoughts on how your NAM capture of your BluGuitar Classic channel played back in NAM Player -compares sound and tone wise- to the same NAM Capture being imported-and-converted into the Hotone (?).

I plan to use the Hotone as audio interface, run DI via USB to NAM plugin and record the same playing through the Hotone with the same profile loaded. Should be the closest like for like.

 

[2dor]

I plan to use the Hotone as audio interface, run DI via USB to NAM plugin and record the same playing through the Hotone with the same profile loaded. Should be the closest like for like.

Sounds good - very curious how it fares.

 

[JCW308]

The Ampero Stage is especially great as far as UI and foot switch layout. I wish it came in black color though.

 

[tdill]

Has anyone tried the new "clones" to see how much DSP they use?

 

[JCW308]

Has anyone tried the new "clones" to see how much DSP they use?

I have and some other people here have, too. It's pretty DSP-intensive with the clones. I hope NAM files means less DSP usage.

 

[tdill]

I have and some other people here have, too. It's pretty DSP-intensive with the clones. I hope NAM files means less DSP usage.

Are you referring to the new as-of-today ".clo" files, or the ".tone" ones?

 

[JCW308]

Are you referring to the new as-of-today ".clo" files, or the ".tone" ones?

The NAM thing is not new as of today. But no, this was with regular Ampero captures.

 

[laxu]

Here's a comparison.

Signal chain:

Guitar (Carvin C66 with Suhr Doug Aldrich pickups) -> Hotone Ampero 2 Stomp -> USB -> Macbook Pro 16" M2 Max -> Logic Pro.

Capture:

BluGuitar Amp 1 Mercury Edition Classic channel -> Bluetone Loadbox -> Audient EVO 8 audio interface.
NAM 1000 epoch capture made using Tonezone3000.

Recording setup:

• Input 7 (Ampero 2 DI signal) -> NAM plugin (mono -> stereo) -> Bus with ML Sound Lab MIKKO 2 cab sim.
• Input 1/2 (Ampero 2 main outs) -> Same bus with cab sim.

I monitored the DAW output from the A2 Stomp headphone out

With a bit of reverb from UA Capitol Chambers, and UA LA-2 output compression:


Same clips, bone dry:


Thoughts:

The low end is totally different on the Ampero 2. I need to try other captures, maybe 100 epoch captures or something. The straight NAM capture in the plugin sounds much clearer.

 

[laxu]

In other news, it seems the captures are now more demanding, or they've limited the capture blocks to one. You can only put one Clone (formerly Catch) block into a preset. Otherwise it seems you can use about the same number of effects.

 

[Progressive_disclosure]

Here's a comparison.

Signal chain:

Guitar (Carvin C66 with Suhr Doug Aldrich pickups) -> Hotone Ampero 2 Stomp -> USB -> Macbook Pro 16" M2 Max -> Logic Pro.

Capture:

BluGuitar Amp 1 Mercury Edition Classic channel -> Bluetone Loadbox -> Audient EVO 8 audio interface.
NAM 1000 epoch capture made using Tonezone3000.

Recording setup:

• Input 7 (Ampero 2 DI signal) -> NAM plugin (mono -> stereo) -> Bus with ML Sound Lab MIKKO 2 cab sim.
• Input 1/2 (Ampero 2 main outs) -> Same bus with cab sim.

I monitored the DAW output from the A2 Stomp headphone out

With a bit of reverb from UA Capitol Chambers, and UA LA-2 output compression:


Same clips, bone dry:


Thoughts:

The low end is totally different on the Ampero 2. I need to try other captures, maybe 100 epoch captures or something. The straight NAM capture in the plugin sounds much clearer.

Even on my phone speakers the difference was very apparent. Difference in low end yes. The original NAM capture definitely sounds less muffled.

 

[mavrick102000]

Internal A2 sounds blanketed, upper mids and some treble are gone in comparison to the NAM capture.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

Woah.. that sound comparison is way different than I expected, and I wasn't sure even what I was expecting.
But to me it's as if they've added a 'bass boost' (like you'd find on one of those super duper AIWA hi-fi systems from the 90s with loads of random eq presets that literally no one needed).

Crazy different. But I guess it may be a good thing for all those people who want over emphasised 'big bass response'.

 

[laxu]

Yeah I will need to investigate if I did something wrong or if different captures behave differently.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

I'm not entirely sure how you set it up, but if I read correctly you used the interface of the Ampero for all of this, so instead you could maybe try and compare by recording a di track through your normal interface into your DAW and then reamping that through both the Ampero and the NAM plugin and seeing if that helps. Also, I would leave out any post processing as that's not really helpful to compare (eg. reverbs etc).