Helix Amp Models Producing DC

[Orvillain]

 

[Chocol8]

There is a large key on most keyboards labeled "enter" that is super helpful.

 

[Chocol8]

I don‘t think many people are really able to hear a thing like DC offset.

That depends. You can't hear DC, but if the offset is large enough and early in the chain it could lead to symmetrical clipping in the models or other very audible artifacts.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Thanks for the reply. I don’t find animation very useful unfortunately. But I do feel the need to comment on it and ignore any point being made.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I think in the end it matters. Even to those of us without golden ears.

 

[mikah912]

I think in the end it matters. Even to those of us without golden ears.

Most definitely. Even to Line 6.

 

[AlbertA]

Axe-Fx III unprocessed 200 Hz sine wave
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Did you check your sensitivity settings? Is this slightly overdriving the input? (which will happen with too high sensitivity settings)

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Did you check your sensitivity settings? Is this slightly overdriving the input? (which will happen with too high sensitivity settings)

Of course. The signal level was low enough to avoid any clipping. The red LED on the Axe-Fx didn't even blink once.

 

[AlbertA]

Of course. The signal level was low enough to avoid any clipping. The red LED on the Axe-Fx didn't even blink once.

What about on the Setup->I/O-> input tab?

 

[KingsXJJ]

I think in the end it matters. Even to those of us without golden ears.

I’m not saying it doesn’t matter. Just wondering how much. There’s plenty of folks who read this discussions that may not know and base purchasing decisions on things that might have no relevance to them.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

What about on the Setup->I/O-> input tab?

As long as the input LED isn't red - why would I change the sensitivity settings?

 

[KingsXJJ]

Of course. The signal level was low enough to avoid any clipping. The red LED on the Axe-Fx didn't even blink once.

Did it consider blinking? Even slightly?

 

[KingsXJJ]

As long as the input LED isn't red - why would I change the sensitivity settings?

Some folks are more sensitive than others that’s why!

 

[KingsXJJ]

I make jokes but the point is serious. And I do appreciate our scientists here. As well as @JiveTurkey for some reason I don’t fully understand yet.

 

[AlbertA]

As long as the input LED isn't red - why would I change the sensitivity settings?

Yeah true.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I make jokes but the point is serious. And I do appreciate our scientists here. As well as @JiveTurkey for some reason I don’t fully understand yet.

All part of the bigger plan!

 

[FuzzyAce]

As well as @JiveTurkey for some reason I don’t fully understand yet.

He's a beautiful enigma.

 

[JiveTurkey]

He's a beautiful enigma.

 

[AlbertA]

Axe-Fx III unprocessed 200 Hz sine wave
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Huh interesting, I'm seeing the same thing:

Which Axe-Fx III is this one? Mark I? (not that it should matter)

 

[fret gunk]

@KingsXJJ I don‘t think many people are really able to hear a thing like DC offset. But the ghost notes and their harmonics caused by ripple? Yes, that can be audible. We are of course counting peas here, but if that leads to the constant improvement of already great gear, then more and more people will have spiritual experiences playing it, just like you had playing your favorite capture.

Somewhere way back in the Helix journey, I remember becoming aware of those unrelated tones when playing through the HX Vox & Marshall amps using stock Ripple settings. Once heard, I found that I couldn't unhear those ghost notes and it really bothered me. Eventually I did the research and, after finding out that they do actually feature in those amps in real life, was absolutely ok with them. The funny thing is that I had never noticed ghost notes even once in all my years of playing through my real JCM800.

So I wonder: How many newish HX users have returned/sold their units or simply moved on due to real behaviours like these being modelled as prominently as they are in HX Land?