Fractal Audio Systems AM4 - Amp Modeler

Wait… you guys are complaining about what’s not included?!

Isn’t having any effects at all already more than we expected?

I thought it would only be amps, no effects
I have/had no expectations whatsoever. I’m in the “damn, so close, you almost got $700 from me” camp. A firmware update might even swing me. I don’t need poly pitch for retuning, but I do need a simple pitch shifter. For me if hardware can’t do it all in one box it’s not for me. Live I want simplicity, in the studio that’s what a DAW is for.
 
I answered my own question, but what I meant, is can the CHANNEL have more than one amp model loaded into it, and, it can.
No. A channel can only have one model.

Each block has 4 channels.

Each channel can have any single model of that effect type.
 
No. A channel can only have one model.

Each block has 4 channels.

Each channel can have any single model of that effect type.
Here's where I answered my own question.

I may not be saying it exactly correctly, (I've been a Line 6 guy for decades), but this is what I meant, from the manual:
With channels, the Amp block is really four amps in one. Each channel (A–D)
stores its own complete set of settings—including the cab—and can be
recalled with a tap. For example, you might set A as a clean Double Verb, B as
an edgy AC-20, C as a dimed Plexi 100W, and D as a soaring USA JP IIC+.
 
I have/had no expectations whatsoever. I’m in the “damn, so close, you almost got $700 from me” camp. A firmware update might even swing me. I don’t need poly pitch for retuning, but I do need a simple pitch shifter. For me if hardware can’t do it all in one box it’s not for me. Live I want simplicity, in the studio that’s what a DAW is for.

Did you even expect any of that to be included in this though? Was there some unmet expectation?

I never would have expected something that is billed as an “amp modeler” to have a pitch shifter.

Saying “you almost got $700 from me” for this is like me saying “you almost got $10 from me for that screwdriver, but for me if it doesn’t have a hammer it’s not for me”
 
Did you even expect any of that to be included in this though? Was there some unmet expectation?

I never would have expected something that is billed as an “amp modeler” to have a pitch shifter.

Saying “you almost got $700 from me” for this is like me saying “you almost got $10 from me for that screwdriver, but for me if it doesn’t have a hammer it’s not for me”
The old "I want an Axe III for $500" starter kit (NTTAWWT)
 
Doing some rearranging today and this week, so decided to take a pic with my AM4 and VP4 together :P Going to be putting them on top and into my AXE-FX 3 for super power if I ever need it. 3 Amps and tons of cab options and tons of effects ready to go between them all lol. :D

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Did you even expect any of that to be included in this though? Was there some unmet expectation?

I never would have expected something that is billed as an “amp modeler” to have a pitch shifter.

Saying “you almost got $700 from me” for this is like me saying “you almost got $10 from me for that screwdriver, but for me if it doesn’t have a hammer it’s not for me”
That’s a shit analogy and you know it. It’s more like, damn I need a hammer with a claw on the back and this is just a wedge.
 
This x1000

And the bellyaching over the insert design is BS. An analog insert is a better design than a placeable converted loop for this kind of device.

If you want a simple, great sounding, powerful hybrid rig option that easily fits on a pedalboard this is a stunningly good device.

I love huge presets and tons of options. But I could totally gig with this and a volume pedal and nothing else and sound truly amazing. The power and sonics of this thing in that footprint is jaw dropping.

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My tonelab se has an insert as well
 
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