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[paisleywookiee]

@Sascha Franck Here you go, chief. This is the iPad Mini 6th gen here, with a generation lower CPU than my iPad, and less RAM than my iPad.

 

[paisleywookiee]

You're coming up with some claims, spread your Windows-hate and have *zero* to prove either and now your whimping out. Way to go.



I can perfectly see that appeal. Just not when using a $350 iPad.

I didn't say I hate Windows, dude. Again, you're being argumentative, because that's your MO. I've got no less than three Windows machines sitting here right now.

Can you explain to me why you're ignoring that I was comparing the iPad+interface to my old Roland VS?

 

[JiveTurkey]

I have been pretty much an argumentative know it all since I was born. I have toned it WAAAAAAYYYYYYYY down in those 50+ years (I hope?) but I have to laugh sometimes at the level of argument "foruming between people" can get to

 

[Sascha Franck]

Can you explain to me why you're ignoring that I was comparing the iPad+interface to my old Roland VS?

I'm not ignoring that. But it's as valid to compare a laptop then.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I'm not ignoring that. But it's as valid to compare a laptop then.

Again, for the cheap seats: THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM COMPARING IT TO. I never said, "hey everyone! Buy an iPad, it's better in every way to a good/decent Windows machine!"

Does that sink into your brain now?

EDIT

Here it is in German!

Nochmals, zu den billigen Sitzen: DAS IST NICHT DAS, WOMIT ICH ES VERGLEICHE. Ich habe nie gesagt: "Hallo zusammen! Kaufen Sie ein iPad, es ist in jeder Hinsicht besser als ein guter/anständiger Windows-Rechner!"

Disclaimer: that's from Google Translate. I don't know if it's accurate.

 

[Sedaxel]

Cool, can I get a link?

You can say what you want, just the same as me.

I've got a 350€ Lenovo laptop and I can perfectly use it for tracking my band at the rehearsal room.

You said it's shit.

I say no. I'm working perfectly with it, not having any issue not suffering for any lacking in speed or whatever.

Now, if you aren't able to say you're wrong calling that a "shit", then more power to you.

 

[paisleywookiee]

You can say what you want, just the same as me.

I've got a 350€ Lenovo laptop and I can perfectly use it for tracking my band at the rehearsal room.

You said it's shit.

I say no. I'm working perfectly with it, not having any issue not suffering for any lacking in speed or whatever.

Now, if you aren't able to say you're wrong calling that a "shit", then more power to you.

Where's the link to the $350 USD laptop? And yeah, I do hate cheap laptops, regardless of operating systems.

 

[Sascha Franck]

@Sascha Franck Here you go, chief. This is the iPad Mini 6th gen here, with a generation lower CPU than my iPad, and less RAM than my iPad.

That's not bad at all. But seriously, an iPad Mini isn't exactly much fun when using Logic (or even just Garageband). I have been sitting around with one of those backstage for 2 days and it was a pretty clumsy experience IMO.

 

[paisleywookiee]

That's not bad at all. But seriously, an iPad Mini isn't exactly much fun when using Logic (or even just Garageband). I have been sitting around with one of those backstage for 2 days and it was a pretty clumsy experience IMO.

Again, reading comprehension. That iPad mini is lower in spec than my 11th gen iPad 10".

 

[paisleywookiee]

And remember, I was comparing it to this:

Maybe, just maybe, it'll start sinking in for you guys. I doubt it, but all I can do is try.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Where's the link to the $350 USD laptop? And yeah, I do hate cheap laptops, regardless of operating systems.

Lenovo Yoga S740 - 14 Zoll UHD IPS i7, 16GB, 512GB, MX250

Verkaufe ein Lenovo Yoga S740 mit: 14 Zoll UHD (3840x2160) IPS mit 500 cd/m², 315PPI, Kontrast...,Lenovo Yoga S740 - 14 Zoll UHD IPS i7, 16GB, 512GB, MX250 in Hannover - Südstadt-Bult

www.kleinanzeigen.de

You will likely get the specs without a translator.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Lenovo Yoga S740 - 14 Zoll UHD IPS i7, 16GB, 512GB, MX250

Verkaufe ein Lenovo Yoga S740 mit: 14 Zoll UHD (3840x2160) IPS mit 500 cd/m², 315PPI, Kontrast...,Lenovo Yoga S740 - 14 Zoll UHD IPS i7, 16GB, 512GB, MX250 in Hannover - Südstadt-Bult

www.kleinanzeigen.de

You will likely get the specs without a translator.

Ah, we're moving the goalposts. Discontinued models now. Cool. There's no currently made Yoga for less than $600. At which point I'll just wait for an Amazon MacBook Air sale, which happens every month.

 

[paisleywookiee]

That's not bad at all. But seriously, an iPad Mini isn't exactly much fun when using Logic (or even just Garageband). I have been sitting around with one of those backstage for 2 days and it was a pretty clumsy experience IMO.

You also have a funny way of saying "I was wrong".

 

[Mikael Dez]

I have been pretty much an argumentative know it all since I was born. I have toned it WAAAAAAYYYYYYYY down in those 50+ years (I hope?) but I have to laugh sometimes at the level of argument "foruming between people" can get to

It boils down to this every time:

 

[paisleywookiee]

So, are you saying you can buy an 11th generation iPad for 350 that is *not* discontinued?

Uh, yeah. That's the generation we're on.

iPad (11th generation) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Sascha Franck]

Uh, yeah. That's the generation we're on.

iPad (11th generation) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Already deleted my post because I mixed things up.
I actually thought they were more expensive, my bad.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Already deleted my post because I mixed things up.
I actually thought they were more expensive, my bad.

Are we done now? Also:

And remember, I was comparing it to this:

View attachment 44463

Maybe, just maybe, it'll start sinking in for you guys. I doubt it, but all I can do is try.

 

[Sedaxel]

Where's the link to the $350 USD laptop? And yeah, I do hate cheap laptops, regardless of operating systems.

This is a snapshot of the bill... I was remembering badly, it costed 308€... Ha...

 

[paisleywookiee]

This is a snapshot of the bill... I was remembering badly, it costed 308€... Ha...View attachment 44467

That's amazing. I still think cheap laptops are shit. That's my opinion, formed after 25 years in IT. Have a nice day.

EDIT

There's also no Lenovo laptop less than $500 USD that's not a complete turd spec-wise on their site.

 

[Sedaxel]

You're absolutely right with regard to the Roland.

This discussion is about my comment about finding surprising that iPads seem to be felt like a cheap solution.

You entered hardly, and you (yes, you) were the one that introduced the "shity windows machine" into the conversation.

Then you hit us because we talk about computers... But it's because you went to that path.

Anyway, I think it's very clear what we all mean. An iPad is what it is, and if you want it to do heavy tasks, it's not exactly cheap.

Even when it's ages ahead of old solutions regarding quality, while the cost can be less (or more... But definitely comparable).