Fast, Tight, Dry Amps, What You Got?

[The other John Browne]

Dover DA50 if you can find one. Hiwatt are also coming out with the Super Hi 50 and 30. PCB versions of the Fortin collab which was the Custom Super Hi 50.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

I thought this was even tighter
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I haven't played this one, but it's built on the Savage platform, so that makes sense.

 

[la szum]

Don‘t let the Morse discourage you from choosing another ENGL. As I said before - If you want the famous Mesa sound, have the Mesa Mark sound in mind, but then buy a Mesa Filmore, disappointment is guaranteed. But that doesn't mean that Mesa amps in general aren't the right choice, it just means that you've chosen the wrong model. I am still pretty sure that you would not regret buying a Savage Mk II or an Artist Edition.

Thanks, TTZ! Yeah, I am not giving up. Just kissing Frogs to see which one turns into a Prince!

I guess I had no idea the Morse was such an outlier in the Engl Ampography.

 

[la szum]

Engl too much so for me.

I used to feel that way, too.


Now I love that immediacy. For certain things, but not for everything.

 

[la szum]

Can you guys with the "Just slap on some EQ, or slop off some Bass with an OD" please stop.



Please.

This is supposed to be about Amps, not Pedals or Pre/Post Production.

Besides, I think we all know those kinds of things already.

Thanks.

 

[la szum]

Surely I'm not a lone here. I find Marshall-style amp much harder to play fast riffs and leads.

Love them both..... (perhaps for different scenarios)

 

[la szum]

Yep, unboosted the Savage is the tightest of them all.

Even in the Fractalverse that holds true to my ears. That's the Model that has me unbuttoning
my pants throughout the day.

 

[Rock Chalk]

Pitbull amps are the ones to get if you want tight, dry, and immediate. The CLX, Ultra Lead, and Classic 100 would all fit that bill. If you want a preamp solution the GP3, GP/DI, and the Synergy UL module are all voiced that way as well. The Deliverance was intentionally designed to be have a softer / more vintage feel. The Sig:X is supposed to be the swiss army amp of the Fryette lineup and can be dialed in to be tight and dry or to have a more forgiving sag.

I guess this is the thread I thought I was in when I suggested the Ultra-Lead and was thinking "I wonder why no-one said Ultra-Lead"....they did!

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

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Using this in front of a Recto Modern Orange

Interesting that you're boosting the mid, treble, and bass on that while also using the tight control to cut out lows.

 

[Desertdweller]

Any of the Mesa Mark amps.

This. Also the Ubershcall synergy module with its dual overdrive modes is super tight as well.

 

[la szum]

Would you consider a 1st Gen Savage, @TheTrueZoltan! ???

 

[Stone]

Interesting that you're boosting the mid, treble, and bass on that while also using the tight control to cut out lows.

It works for what I need

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Would you consider a 1st Gen Savage, @TheTrueZoltan! ???

If you like mids, buy 2nd gen.

 

[la szum]

You've been super, super helpful, @TheTrueZoltan!

Thank you!

 

[GuitarBilly74]

ENGL has 2 platforms of flagship high gain amps, the Fireball/Powerball and the Savage.
Everything else are variations on those platforms.
The Blackmore, Artist, Morse, Inferno, Ironball etc are all based on the FB/PB platform and they have a huge low end and low mids but are not necessarily tight.

The Special Edition, Svogli sig are based on the Savage and they're much tighter.

Then they have some lower priced lines like the Screamer, Gig Master, E530 preamp etc.. those are a bit different.

And the Retro line, which is lower gain.

But for the flagship high gain amps, they're all based on the 2 main platforms.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

ENGL has 2 platforms of flagship high gain amps, the Fireball/Powerball and the Savage.
Everything else are variations on those platforms.
The Blackmore, Artist, Morse, Inferno, Ironball etc are all based on the FB/PB platform and they have a huge low end and low mids but are not necessarily tight.

The Special Edition, Svogli sig are based on the Savage and they're much tighter.

Then they have some lower priced lines like the Screamer, Gig Master, E530 preamp etc.. those are a bit different.

And the Retro line, which is lower gain.

But for the flagship high gain amps, they're all based on the 2 main platforms.

You are 50% right. While it‘s true that some ENGL amps are variations/derivatives of other models, I think you‘re wrong with some of your categorizations.

 

[dronerstone]

The only one in my arsenal that does this is probably the Ampeg VT-22, it's got a big, bold and dry sound, and is a very direct/straight shooter.

I'm sure there are lots of modern amps that'll fit much better.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Dover DA50 if you can find one. […]

Interesting recommendation! Some years ago there was a huge hype around the Dover DA. But after only a couple of months the hype subsided and I haven‘t heard much about Dover anymore.

 

[Stone]

You've been super, super helpful, @TheTrueZoltan!

Thank you!

Give him the Salute

 

[RaceU4her]

My Hermansson mod and it’s not really close, “immediate” dosent even describe how quick and tight that thing feels, definitely takes a little while to get used to after playing other amps