Do you think Kemper profiling MKII will fix these issues?
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Chocol8
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Not fully. I think if they could do an easy fix with their architecture they would have done it a while ago as these issues are not new. I am sure they can do a lot better, but can they catch up to Tonex and NAM?
I would think they would need to design a completely new process to do that, one that is more in line with the competition as in a machine learning black box rather than their current approach of matching to one of a selection of base models. Is that impossible? No. Do they have the people to do it and do it well? I have my doubts. The fact that they said "summer" and then went silent after Tonex V2 suggests they have their doubts as well!
I would think they would need to design a completely new process to do that, one that is more in line with the competition as in a machine learning black box rather than their current approach of matching to one of a selection of base models. Is that impossible? No. Do they have the people to do it and do it well? I have my doubts. The fact that they said "summer" and then went silent after Tonex V2 suggests they have their doubts as well!
JiveTurkey
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Add Dr. Nick Riviera and the GREATEST IR IN THE WORLD to the mix and we're absolutely screwed. He's like one notch away from "The Rig Doctor"
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If I was a Kemper customer, I'm not, I would get out now while you still get some money for it unless you are completely happy with it right now. I dont see it getting much better. If it could and Kemper wanted to upgrade everything, they are probably too far behind to catch up to the ones leading the race at this point.
IMO, the capture market is going to keep getting better and cheaper which neither of those points have ever been in Kemper's priorities.
IMO, the capture market is going to keep getting better and cheaper which neither of those points have ever been in Kemper's priorities.
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Man, I watched a bunch of Mason’s (Vertex/Rig Doctor) videos last week and felt a bit conflicted; he’s come a long way since the Vertex/BBE wah BS, he’s put out some quality information on rig building, gear and his newer interviews with guys like Dan Huff or Keith from Bryan Adams have been outstanding, but it’s shit like that, the whole Rig Doctor thing, that give me caution in regard to inviting him here. And while I’m confident he wouldn’t attempt to screw people over again, I’m not confident the general forum public would be able to let it go in order for anything constructive to come from his presence here.
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Major shitstorm potential IMO.
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Kemper is so cooked in that video. I can't see them catching up to Tonex or Nam.
One thing about Tonex is they took the risk and improved their algorithm, even with the knowledge of outdating the original one. That's a big move to make, but they made the Captures noticeably better and drastically reduced the Capture time, for free.
One thing about Tonex is they took the risk and improved their algorithm, even with the knowledge of outdating the original one. That's a big move to make, but they made the Captures noticeably better and drastically reduced the Capture time, for free.
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IMO IK is very intentionally signaling intent to engage in a lasting diologue with their Tonex users and it’s working. Tonex One is EVERYWHERE.
A year ago the internet said you had a 95% chance of death from using Tonex software. Now the majority of the sentiment is that the software is still imperfect but getting consistently better and now the captures are best in class.
It’s hard not to be bullish on IK or at least Tonex right now.
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Part of me wishes I would have opted for the full ToneX. Not having a display is a bummer for me.
But I still am really enjoying it
But I still am really enjoying it
EOengineer
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Admittedly the big pedal was an impulse buy at launch and I had NO IDEA what to expect in terms of function or reliability. I can attest that it’s amongst the most robust hardware in my arsenal. TXO is no slouch either though.
The extra control of the unit is very convenient though. Especially toggling through impulse responses, etc. I can’t recommend the full size enough.
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Nope. Negative.
EOengineer
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To call Kemper a sinking ship would be falsely attributing the presence of any buoyancy whatsoever. I feel for the folks there but they have failed to innovate in a segment of the market where it’s table stakes. I hope they can pull out of their tailspin.
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You could pick up one of those Pirate MIDI boxes that add MIDI and a display to the Tonex One. It's a novel solution, though costs about as much as the Tonex One itself.
My beef with the big Tonex is the insanely bad parameter editing for anything that's not on the two layers of 5 knobs. It would be so easy to fix too - add more layers of controls!
IK is sort of in the same boat as Fractal now, in a way - they've improved their algorithms, but haven't done much on the UI side. One notable exception is the Tonex Modeler software which seems to be pretty well thought out for making V2 captures.
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Watching ML's video, I'm surprised the QC is still faring quite well. I wonder if they have improved their captures over time? I remember at launch I got tones that were quite close, but not 100% there. But still good enough to be totally in the "yeah I'll happily play these" level.
Kemper absolutely needs their own version that can get as close to NAM and Tonex as possible. I still think they will struggle the most because their pricing is a good chunk higher, and they don't have the marketing cachet or modern hw design of NDSP.
I got to hand it to IK though, they really hit it out of the park with the Tonex One by being able to deliver it cheap yet keep the tones at a level the Asian competitors are not reaching atm with their NAM conversion products.
Kemper absolutely needs their own version that can get as close to NAM and Tonex as possible. I still think they will struggle the most because their pricing is a good chunk higher, and they don't have the marketing cachet or modern hw design of NDSP.
I got to hand it to IK though, they really hit it out of the park with the Tonex One by being able to deliver it cheap yet keep the tones at a level the Asian competitors are not reaching atm with their NAM conversion products.
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I think everybody knows what every one is doing in the industry they know Line6 is coming w proxy and they probably know people that have heard it or gave them the heads up on the quality
So they knew that had to up their game this year before the proxy release
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I'd just leave. Of course, I disagree that he's come a long way at all. He still downplays what a lying crook he was for a long time before and after the wah mess that he tries to pretend was an isolated incident. That leads me to conclude that at root, he's still a lying crook.
He's always been good at ingratiating himself with famous people, so his getting a few interviews doesn't surprise me.
But I wouldn't cause a shitstorm. I'd just leave, and quietly.
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