Darkglass Anagram - NAM profile player & multieffects unit

[Chocol8]

How low is the latency?

I would guess that it is variable depending on what you are asking it to run, but it is very interesting that nothing has been said about it.

 

[Aleksi]

Guitar is mentioned exactly once on the Darkglass Anagram product page (apparently it includes some guitar cabs), and there are several mentions of it being bass-focused. Anyway, a thread about a NAM loading pedal would absolutely have been started even if it was mentioned in the teaser that it's for bass players.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Damn. Yet another amp modeling multi fx unit for bass players. When will someone make a guitar focused multi fx unit?!

Seriously though, years of "bass really only needs a DI" and then a SINGLE FRIGGING BASS FOCUSED UNIT is released and guitarists can't stop complaining that it's not for them

It’s kind of artificially “just for bassists” though. There’s nothing about NAM that says “this is just for guitarists” or “this is just for bassists”. The technology captures what it captures, that’s it.

 

[2dor]

It’s kind of artificially “just for bassists” though. There’s nothing about NAM that says “this is just for guitarists” or “this is just for bassists”. The technology captures what it captures, that’s it.

Exactly my point...

 

[laxu]

It’s kind of artificially “just for bassists” though. There’s nothing about NAM that says “this is just for guitarists” or “this is just for bassists”. The technology captures what it captures, that’s it.

But all the fx are tuned to work with bass. Doesn't mean you can't use them for guitar, but that's really what makes it a bass product.

 

[Humbug]

"Oh, it's only for bass"... Guys, we've been playing modified BASSman amps for decades

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

I just made a before-and-after-official-announcement comparison with my wallet.

It nulls.

 

[2dor]

I like that it has the max. input gain rating already published (+12 dBu); at least that should make it easier to gain-stage properly for profiles which disclose this info. Wonder if they'll add in the SEND/RETURN metadata processing too.

 

[[Nathan]]

It’s kind of artificially “just for bassists” though. There’s nothing about NAM that says “this is just for guitarists” or “this is just for bassists”. The technology captures what it captures, that’s it.

Yeah but you’re paying for a whole unit that’s loaded with bass effects and cabs. I guess if you’re ok with spending $1000 to ignore everything the unit does and only use nam then yeah I doubt it makes much of a difference on the instrument. You’d wanna be a pretty dedicated enthusiast to be in that cohort though.

 

[2dor]

Yeah but you’re paying for a whole unit that’s loaded with bass effects and cabs. I guess if you’re ok with spending $1000 to ignore everything the unit does and only use nam then yeah I doubt it makes much of a difference on the instrument. You’d wanna be a pretty dedicated enthusiast to be in that cohort though.

It's pretty obvious they rushed it out the door (not sure why that is - yet) & while it is a step in the right direction, it'll be a good while until it's a unit most gear-heads would like to spend their $$ on.

 

[Aleksi]

It's pretty obvious they rushed it out the door (not sure why that is - yet) & while it is a step in the right direction, it'll be a good while until it's a unit most gear-heads would like to spend their $$ on.

MIDI is apparently under development, but it's been under development on the Quad Cortex for years now Otherwise I'm not sure what is particularly rushed here compared to other such launches. It even has a headphone jack

 

[paisleywookiee]

But all the fx are tuned to work with bass. Doesn't mean you can't use them for guitar, but that's really what makes it a bass product.

Yeah but you’re paying for a whole unit that’s loaded with bass effects and cabs. I guess if you’re ok with spending $1000 to ignore everything the unit does and only use nam then yeah I doubt it makes much of a difference on the instrument. You’d wanna be a pretty dedicated enthusiast to be in that cohort though.

Yup, I realize that. And that's what makes it a stupid product, by their own design. Notice how there's no "Bass Kemper", "Bass Helix"? It's because artificially limiting a $1000 device to one instrument is profoundly stupid.

 

[Aleksi]

Yup, I realize that. And that's what makes it a stupid product, by their own design. Notice how there's no "Bass Kemper", "Bass Helix"? It's because artificially limiting a $1000 device to one instrument is profoundly stupid.

Time will tell if it's stupid. The product will fail if it is. Bass is very much an afterthought for most modeling multi fx units, so maybe Darkglass sees a potential market there? Besides, I'm sure these bass oriented effects are just fine for guitar, like guitar oriented effects are for bass. Guitarists can get by with them if they want a powerful NAM loader in a sleek package.

 

[Audio Transformer]

 

[AFKAEjay(retired)]

Great form factor, lots of IO cranked in a small unit, open platform for other developers, supports NAM.
Personally I think open platform hardware is the future. Today.. brands with a foot in the hardware market will not step in offcourse…but it makes total sense to me that couple of years from now…open platform hardware is the norm. Maybe plugin devs will step in. In that scenario bass/guitar don’t matter anymore.

The presentation as a Bass unit is strange tbh…it’s only the software part that determines that, and why choke your hardware into one category? Maybe a condition during the sell of the company to korg?…that they would not be direct competitors to NDSP, and it’s a legal bypass by presenting it as a bass unit?..speculation


In my mind it sits where the KPP sits ATM, same price point compared to a fully upgraded one.
I’d be tempted mainly cause of the IO set…if I could verify the verbs/delays are great, and midi/utlilities like routing noncabsimmed/simmed parallel outputs. For now I’ll wait a bit and see where it goes.

 

[Aleksi]

Made in Finland, nice. Are Neural and Darkglass the only companies not making their modelers in China/other cheap labor countries? I think Fractal moved production to China as well? Edit: Kemper is probably made in Germany.

Oh, and it's nearly a third of the depth of the FM3. What about heat management??!?

 

[nicolasrivera]

This is a true game changer! Aimed at Bass players but will mostly be used by guitar players world wide!

 

[paisleywookiee]

This is a true game changer! Aimed at Bass players but will mostly be used by guitar players world wide!

 

[OrganicZed]

Made in Finland, nice. Are Neural and Darkglass the only companies not making their modelers in China/other cheap labor countries? I think Fractal moved production to China as well? Edit: Kemper is probably made in Germany.

Oh, and it's nearly a third of the depth of the FM3. What about heat management??!?

Yes, Fractal is manufactured in China.

 

[Rev. Irreverent Revenant]

The presentation as a Bass unit is strange tbh…it’s only the software part that determines that, and why choke your hardware into one category? Maybe a condition during the sell of the company to korg?…that they would not be direct competitors to NDSP, and it’s a legal bypass by presenting it as a bass unit?..speculation

Not really, Darkglass was founded as bass focused company long before the Korg acquisition. The real tragedy is that bass effects horribly mangle guitar tones and threaten the player with grievous bodily injury if not used with extreme caution in highly controlled environments.