Nice! Just read your NGD thread! Nice score on that guitar by the way!
Congrats! Those are really nice looking. I am sure they sound great with the US electronics in them.
Yeah until I read it was 100% USA made I had no interest in the S2’s for the money. Now, that’s a whole other story. Especially for as nice as these tops are.
It’ll be here tomorrow dawg!
How much wood do you think they carve off when making a proper carved top?I am not sold. Just doesn't make sense to my mind.That's a lot of precious wood
wasted if that is the case. If that is legit flamey or quilted tops why would they carve it like
that. It's the kind of top you would leave in tact if it were not a foto top or a veneer, no?
Doesn't mean that I think the top is not Maple. I have no doubt that it is. Just that the blingy
surface is probably not the same exact wood as the "top."
If the guitar has the "wood library" designation that means the wood came from the vault and has a high amount of figuring to it. It would be considered better than a 10 top. Things can change once it is carved because they can't see inside the blank of wood. However, you can make some educated guesses by looking at the top and back and seeing what looks to run all the way through the blank.
First part is correct. The differentiator on S2’s is the simpler carve takes less time and is easier to complete and the necks have scarf joints as opposed to a single big piece of wood. Also production runs get the lesser visual quality tops.
Yep. Better than 10 tops which is what floored me. If you zoom into the pics I posted you can see how thick the tops are. It’s nuts. And yeah, if you look at all the guitars in the run, you can really see the variance in the tops start to shift from “Holy fuck that is gorgeous to not too shabby”
I think with Suhr the issue is probably that, aside from their standard series (or whatever they are called), that fiesta red strat is an individual custom spec guitar where PRS is doing batches. Still agree TOTALLY with your point, but it is a difference. I played a used Ian Thornley strat at a GC the other day and was not really psyched on the finish? Was the first "antique" finish I've seen on a Suhr in the flesh and overall I found it kinda wonky looking. Played great even though I didn't love the neck shape; sounded phenomenal; but the finish looked more like a flawed factory finish than anything actually antique?
Does Suhr CNC their own bodies and necks in-house?
Nearly certain they do.
Yeah they do.
Yes. The bulk of the guitar is made in house. They used to use CTS pots but switched to Bournes due to getting too many bad pots from CTS. They have the tuners made for them and the new two point bridge is also made for them.
I respectfully disagree based on what I have read over the years. It is my understanding that the "Wood Library" designation has nothing to do with the quality of the wood but is simply a dealer making specific wood and component changes to a standard model in the PRS line and they must order in quantity of 10 pieces. They can choose to use 10 tops, they can choose to use PS wood, different pickups, tuners, etc. They can choose 10 tops, but do not have to and many WL runs have wood that certainly would not qualify as a 10 top (but maybe has a RW neck). The only woods that I know of that are higher in the chain than 10 top wood is the discontinued "Artist Series" wood designation (which was supposed to be better than 10 top but not quite PS level) and the PS Wood which is of course the cream of the crop. I could be wrong, but that is what I have gathered in the few years I have been following PRS. My PRS 594 HBII WL is a 10 top and designated as such on the headstock, but it did not have to be and were it not, the top would not have been better and likely not as eye pleasing. If anyone can point me to an official explanation indicating otherwise, I am happy to eat some crow for dinner ;~))
It is possible that your understanding is correct. I know they have changed how they do things several times over the years. I have a couple of artist pack guitars that have the higher grade top on them. I remember they came up with a different option when they discontinued the artis pack. Thinking back, it may have been the initial wood library program. I have seen a good number of wood library guitars with the 10 on the headstock.
Yeah, and I have no idea why they never put any kind of designation on the Artist series stuff. I mean, an "A" on the back of the headstock where the "10" for 10 top normally goes would not be that difficult and at least then users would know instantly if it was an artist series guitar. Without that, you need to contact PRS to verify if you don't have the original paperwork.
Yeah, it would be better if they had some defined criteria that the pieces of wood have to meet to get that 10 top designation that is consistent. I haven't seen a 10 top for a while that didn't look like a 10 top. Back in the 2000's I saw more than a few.
Oh I’ve seen some 10 tops that made me ask “are they fucking with me?”
