Captor X type of device without the reactive load?

[HotRats]

As per the title.

I'd like to avoid putting a microphone in front of my cab on stage and prefer to send an IR to FOH mixer.
I don't need a reactive load or silent recording features.
I'd like to have a simple ir loader, like a the mooer radar or TC impulse ir loader but able to take the input for the amp out.

is there anyhing like that outthere?

I'm aware there are analog passive solutions (wich are cool in their own way) like the palmer pdi03 or pdi 03jb or the palmer ilm.

 

[HotRats]

Two Notes Opus Amp Simulator and DynIR Engine Pedal

Guitar Multi-effects Pedal with Power Amp Modeling, Preamp Modeling, DynIR Engine, 99 Presets, MIDI, USB-C, Effects, Bluetooth, and App Editor

www.sweetwater.com

Has a speaker-level input and through.

ok, thank you.
this one has also things I don't need like the C.A.B. M+ (which looks like the opus with a screen. Two Notes products always confues me, LOL).

 

[Enchilada Jones]

Opus for the win. It does that job really well and it is also a really good backup for your whole rig if a tube blows or something else burns out etc

 

[HotRats]

@Enchilada Jones Using an Helix Floor in 4cm I don't really need a backup because If the amp blows I can switch to full Helix and if the Helix blows I can switch to amp only.

I might try one of the analog passive solutions on the market and see if they sound good enough

 

[SKU]

Two Notes Opus Amplficator pentru chitară - 1.299 lei - Muziker

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But you can just add a resistor to the output of your amp and get a line level signal that you can then plug into a mooer radar. Far cheaper ...

 

[HotRats]

Two Notes Opus Amplficator pentru chitară - 1.299 lei - Muziker

Two Notes Opus ✓ Cel mai bun pret garantat ✓ Livrare rapida ✓ Politica de retur de pana la 30 de zile ✓ Serviciu clienti profesional ✓ de 25 de ani pe

www.muziker.ro

But you can just add a resistor to the output of your amp and get a line level signal that you can then plug into a mooer radar. Far cheaper ...

That's not a bad idea, actually.

I need to put that in a practical box.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

That's not a bad idea, actually.

I need to put that in a practical box.

If you want to go that way you could create a very short instrument jumper 1/4” cord male/ female, solder the resistor inline and use heat shrink insulation to capture the resistor alongside the jumper cable you created. The Radar is decent but I doubt there is room inside to house the resistor internally. I sold my CabM+ when Opus was delivered and Radar is listed now on Gear Exchange because I like the Swiss Army knife aspect of the Opus.

 

[laxu]

Yeah, it’s certainly a catch-all product. There’s another one that I think @laxu might know about, but the name escaped me. It was strictly an IR loader, with a speaker level.

Nux Solid Studio maybe? https://www.nuxaudio.com/solid-studio.html

Otherwise I'm drawing a blank as well...

Thomas Blug used to make one too, but it appears it’s discontinued.

Yeah the BluGuitar Blubox's DSP chip is apparently discontinued or hard to get, so they discontinued the pedal. Not sure if they will make a V2 or if they are all hands full with the Amp X.

The Blubox has some really good IRs, but you can't load your own and some of the 4x12s could be better. So maybe like 80% good stuff.

 

[HotRats]

Thank you guys!

I'll think about it....
from a certain point of view I like a passive all analog solution because is straightforward plug and play and doesn't need a power supply
but at the same time IRs are much more flexible and offer much more control over your sound.

 

[SKU]

IMO IRs are a waste of time in the end.
If I needed a cab sim I'd go for an analog device. I have the HK Grandmeister and the redbox in it sounds and feels absolutely great!
I would buy something like this for sure: https://www.thomann.de/ro/hugheskettner_redbox_5.htm

 

[SKU]

here's the redbox in the GM40:
There's a different feeling compared to playing with IRs. The sound is more direct and amp-like. Don't know how to describe it but I checked the Redbox page now and they also mention this and I fully understand what they mean by that:

 

[SKU]

I would avoid the analog stuff. It just can't hold a candle to an IR, be it the static type or something like the Two Notes stuff. I've had the Redbox, PDI-03/09, and the Radial stuff, and all of it sounds like what it is: an analog filter, not a mic'd speaker cab.

Nah ...

 

[JiveTurkey]

How about the Friedman Mic No Mo?

 

[Mongillo19]

here's the redbox in the GM40:
There's a different feeling compared to playing with IRs. The sound is more direct and amp-like. Don't know how to describe it but I checked the Redbox page now and they also mention this and I fully understand what they mean by that:

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Would you say the OX Stomp/ Ox Box is similar? They claim to be different than IRs

So for OP maybe an OX Stomp

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Would you say the OX Stomp/ Ox Box is similar? They claim to be different than IRs

So for OP maybe an OX Stomp

The OxStomp … is great. Because it sounds like an IR, not like a shitty analog filter that folks have been using since 1993…

But the app sucks, which makes it less great.

 

[Mongillo19]

Because it sounds like an IR, not like a shitty analog filter that folks have been using since 1993…

In your opinion, do you view IRs from even the big names to be analog filters?

Not being snarky, just honestly curious because I have no idea lol

 

[JiveTurkey]

Interesting that they missed out on the opportunity for this to be an all in one DI device for guitarists, and omitted the ability to take speaker level, like the Two Notes stuff and analog sims. You'd need a Suhr or Bray ISO box as well to use this, if your tube amp doesn't have a line out.

That's Our UATM

 

[SKU]

“analog filter” is empty words used by top users that have no idea what they are saying.

 

[Mongillo19]

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

“analog filter” is empty words used by top users that have no idea what they are saying.

…or by folks that have been running direct for 25+ years and can listen to a clip and say “yup, sounds a lot like the way I did it in the 90s, by combing a couple of analog speaker simulations in series to get a roll-off steep enough to not sound like frying bacon, but to still sound neither like a cab, nor like a mic’ed cab.” Your clip - the playing is sold. The tone isn’t bad. But in my opinion, it would sound much better with an IR or an Ox Stomp. Or, quite honestly, the cab block of a POD 2.0.