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Metal was born from Laney.....sorry.
Birmingham didn't have many amp makers gifting custom builds at that time, methinks. But did the gear make Iommi and/or Sabbath "better"? Rangemaster as well... I grew up on Master of Reality tones, but Laney amps are hard to get in my town atm.Metal was born from Laney.....sorry.
Lyndon Laney was Toni Iommi's friend.Birmingham didn't have many amp makers gifting custom builds at that time, methinks. But did the gear make Iommi and/or Sabbath "better"? Rangemaster as well... I grew up on Master of Reality tones, but Laney amps are hard to get in my town atm.
These days Sabbath are crowned as THE pioneers of Metal, but when I was a kid in the 70's it was the big 3 - Zep, Purple and Sabbath, then Lizzy and Priest etc.
The point remains that without the tech the guitar sounds different. Lord of this World on a clean amp/channel... why bother?
Quite so. It's just that at the time, Sabbath were not considered the only Metal band the way they are credited with the invention of Metal today. Zep already had a couple of albums (and Beck considered their sound a rip-off of his), Purple had In Rock, and all credited Cream and Hendrix.Lyndon Laney was Toni Iommi's friend.
He actually played in a band with him, pre Sabbath.
Some of his first amps were built specifically for him ...with distortion as a design goal....thus metal tone....intended.
He also put that rangemaster circuit in a Laney...for him. The KLIPP circuit.
Toni has always credited Laney for his sound.
Lyndon never gets the respect that many others do....his work and innovation made players sound better... therefore they played better.
Not sure if this was known or not.
I can't say I suppose...as i was not around back then. I don't consider either DP or LZ metal...but, I can see how they could be seen that way. Nothing against them, obviously, just not metal....to me. I am younger.....and less experienced.Quite so. It's just that at the time, Sabbath were not considered the only Metal band the way they are credited with the invention of Metal today. Zep already had a couple of albums (and Beck considered their sound a rip-off of his), Purple had In Rock, and all credited Cream and Hendrix.
The tech remains important to the sound produced by it.
I remember that stuff too. I'm not that young!I'm so old I remember when TubeScreamers were the latest inventive sound - and when the Boss Chorus ruled the radio in the 80's.
I gigged with a 2 6V6 Laney head in concert with a Crate V32 head thru the same 1X12 cab using a switcher. It was a killer setup, That Laney did AC/DC like you never heard, and the Crate was great for the jangly clean tones. Plus the sound guy loved me cuz I was able to get killer tone at mic-able levels.Lyndon Laney was Toni Iommi's friend.
He actually played in a band with him, pre Sabbath.
Some of his first amps were built specifically for him ...with distortion as a design goal....thus metal tone....intended.
He also put that rangemaster circuit in a Laney...for him. The KLIPP circuit.
Toni has always credited Laney for his sound.
Lyndon never gets the respect that many others do....his work and innovation made players sound better... therefore they played better.
Not sure if this was known or not.
I was just mentioning compression in another thread. Makes a huge difference in playing a difficult legato solo.Another effect that I was clueless about in my youth was a compressor. This too can make you sound pro with less muscle effort.
I think I just read that, re. not having to overcompensate -- probably a great and recognizable point for me.I was just mentioning compression in another thread. Makes a huge difference in playing a difficult legato solo.
If you don't have any gear you can't play a damn thing, let alone improve and get "better."