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I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt as you obviously don’t understand United States Trademark laws. This is not dissimilar to say, a company like Suhr naming their Classic-S “Stratocaster.”
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What the same history books that at school told us how Great Britain was but left out all the bits about Raping Pillaging Murdering And Slavery and fucking up countries & there peoples around the world .
I don’t think they are on display anymore So give them back to where they belong because it’s deffonitely not London 😡
All historical empires have good and bad shit about them. That's life. Want some shit that'll knock your head back, read up on the Barbary Pirates and their slave trade.

Doesn't change the fact that the marbles are owned by the UK. Wanna blame someone, blame the Ottoman leaders of the time.

Sick to fucking death of all of this anti-British nonsense that British people constantly chat. It's bollocks.
 
People are always quick to slam down on British empire colonisation and so on…

Always good and bad shit happens. Because people are people who ever the fuck they are.

I am a half Swede half Sri Lanka dude and live with two “cultures” in my family. I’ve been to Sri Lanka a lot, have relatives there and many of the relatives live in Sweden now.

I’m well aware of the impact historically the British colonization had on Sri Lanka.

The British takeover from Dutch (which had to do with conflicts in Europe) was a good thing in the end… for the people. Both sides needed control over the area so the “intent” is fundamentally about war. imho: better British than Dutch. The Dutch didn’t do a great job… to say the least.

Without British rule/colonization Sri Lanka wouldn’t have been what it is today. They brought Sri Lanka from ancient to modern regarding everything. Schools, modern bureaucracy systems, politics, trade, infrastructure. Everything was kicked up a notch in the butt. One could also argue that the Buddhist nature of things was more likely to accept and wanting to receive external help than other countries/religions that the British had a harder time with.
 
People are always quick to slam down on British empire colonisation and so on…

Always good and bad shit happens. Because people are people who ever the fuck they are.

I am a half Swede half Sri Lanka dude and live with two “cultures” in my family. I’ve been to Sri Lanka a lot, have relatives there and many of the relatives live in Sweden now.

I’m well aware of the impact historically the British colonization had on Sri Lanka.

The British takeover from Dutch (which had to do with conflicts in Europe) was a good thing in the end… for the people. Both sides needed control over the area so the “intent” is fundamentally about war. imho: better British than Dutch. The Dutch didn’t do a great job… to say the least.

Without British rule/colonization Sri Lanka wouldn’t have been what it is today. They brought Sri Lanka from ancient to modern regarding everything. Schools, modern bureaucracy systems, politics, trade, infrastructure. Everything was kicked up a notch in the butt. One could also argue that the Buddhist nature of things was more likely to accept and wanting to receive external help than other countries/religions that the British had a harder time with.

Fist bumps to you @the swede - This'll get cleaned up when Drew wakes up, not to worry! :rofl


This is far more historical commentary than anything to do with religious/political discussion and I'm a history dork, so it's fine with me.

Unless this is a hot topic over in EU that I'm unaware of, which is entirely possible, in that case, knock it off. I have a feeling it's not the same thing as American history discussions, though.
 
Speaking as a professional historian that has researched and teaches Empire, colonisation, and decolonisation at university for a living (ignore the fact that I literally live in one what was once one of the largest, oldest, modt lucrative colonies) all I can say is you folks need to stop associating your identities with that of your nation’s past. Not a very wise thing to do. Being a history buff is one thing, celebrating/apologising for the Empire is another. The ravages of colonialism are real. It’s not a matter for “debate” or “historical interest”. Almost a century of historical research has shown with very little doubt that colonialism may have sped things up a bit, but most of the modernisation it brought to the colonies was simply to extract more raw material and expand the markets for finished goods. The outgrowth of modern institutions was an unintended consequence. Defending colonisation for bringing modernity to the colonies is like defending the Nazis for taking humanity to the Moon. (I am also a historian of Fascism and the Far Right, but this can turn easily towards politics and religion so I’ll stop here)

Having said all that, I am not in the “return the thing to the folks” kinda person. I don’t stand for the whole “they stole it from us” rhetoric. BUT, legality can be mutually exclusive from justice. Legal contracts can be signed under coercion and duress. Doesn’t make the contracts just.
 
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BUT, legality can be mutually exclusive from justice
The world is in for extremely dark days when this becomes true.

all I can say is you folks need to stop associating your identities with that of your nation’s past
It is quite ironic that this all went down on the 81st anniversary of D-Day. But I'll leave it there. Don't want to continue the descent.
 
Even being a layman, it's not hard to wrap you head around the fact that 1:1 copying the horsey graphic AND calling it Centaur is already sufficient to warrant a case, I'd say.

Centura, Centavo, etc, aren't part of the problem.

And the Chinese counterfeit Centaurs? That a completely different story. I know a specific MI gear company, and their stuff has also been 1:1 cloned for the Chinese market (and can be found via AliExpress), and according to them:

1) at least it means you're popular 😂

and

2) persecution is more or less impossible 💩

But Behringer/Music Tribe isn't exclusive to China, as they're selling their Centaur worldwide - which makes this a completely different situation, and actually means they're not "invincible"
 
Speaking as a professional historian that has researched and teaches Empire, colonisation, and decolonisation at university for a living (ignore the fact that I literally live in one what was once one of the largest, oldest, modt lucrative colonies) all I can say is you folks need to stop associating your identities with that of your nation’s past. Not a very wise thing to do. Being a history buff is one thing, celebrating/apologising for the Empire is another. The ravages of colonialism are real. It’s not a matter for “debate” or “historical interest”. Almost a century of historical research has shown with very little doubt that colonialism may have sped things up a bit, but most of the modernisation it brought to the colonies was simply to extract more raw material and expand the markets for finished goods. The outgrowth of modern institutions was an unintended consequence. Defending colonisation for bringing modernity to the colonies is like defending the Nazis for taking humanity to the Moon. (I am also a historian of Fascism and the Far Right, but this can turn easily towards politics and religion so I’ll stop here)

Having said all that, I am not in the “return the thing to the folks” kinda person. I don’t stand for the whole “they stole it from us” rhetoric. BUT, legality can be mutually exclusive from justice. Legal contracts can be signed under coercion and duress. Doesn’t make the contracts just.

I would submit that your view is highly biased by being overly focused and missing the forest for the trees. We keep learning more and more about human history from various scientific fields, and our history, our evolution, and our society are built upon wave after wave of colonizations going back millions of years before modern humans even evolved.

None of the people the British, Dutch, or Portuguese ran into and colonized where the first humans to settle their homes. Every one of them were descendants of colonizers who had displaced the prior colonizers. The Europeans themselves were and are the result of many waves of colonizations. Human history is dirty and ugly, but everything from our genes to our technology to our form of organization derives from the history of colonization.

As for being a historian of Fascism and the far right, that in itself is quite a misteaching by historians. The Fascists evolved from communists and socialists. They turned against the global nature of communist revolt to leverage the surge in Nationalism during WWI, and they were more pragmatic in implementing socialism, partnering with the owners of business and the means of production rather than replacing them, but they ever remained workers parties that favored strong government control of the economy. Policy wise, they fit very squarely within what we call the far left today.
 
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