Andy Eagle ( Guitar repair tech for 30 years )

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You can see how it works here but also the large amount of wood that is lost. Best to find one fitted and see if you like it.
 
Thanks, Andy. This is all new to me. Is that Paisley Tele just a B Bender or a G & B Bender?
 
Eagle said:
Yes occasionally (more than if I am honest) people bring me guitars to fix and it's nothing to do with the guitar. One guy once showed me his 8K Martin and said "if I do this it sounds out of tune" my answer was "don't do that then.":LOL:
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I LOVE IT!!!!
That’s how ya light up the morning man!!
That’s sounds PRECISELY like a conversation between me & my X-Wife when I had to train her
simple home repairs without me being around..
LOL!
-didn’t she realize my mad skills when we were married?
Now that-LOL!!

Tone Factoids…he said he thinks he heard what the other guy said he heard..now somebody believes it, repeats it & it’s cascaded into a fact.
 
Life Eats Life said:
I LOVE IT!!!!
That’s how ya light up the morning man!!
That’s sounds PRECISELY like a conversation between me & my X-Wife when I had to train her
simple home repairs without me being around..
LOL!
-didn’t she realize my mad skills when we were married?
Now that-LOL!!

Tone Factoids…he said he thinks he heard what the other guy said he heard..now somebody believes it, repeats it & it’s cascaded into a fact.
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The simple reality is:
If you can show me ‘this’ problem..
WTH did it come from???🎯
 
Thanks again for recommending the Highway 1 Tele and the Gotoh saddles. I have them installed and restrung the guitar with 10s and it sounds and plays great.

Since I moved from 9s to 10s I need to tighten the truss rod to remove the (unwanted) newly introduced relief.

Q: What size Allen key is needed to adjust the headstock access truss rod?

Cheers.
 
Andy, your forum page is my favorite.
I find you extremely credible & open handedly
helpful.
I’ve learned herds’ my man👍
& your suggestion to the fellow about when he
plays a certain way it reveals a certain something he could not dial out...
Your response was PRICELESS.
“Well, just don’t do that. LMAO💯
 
Hey @Eagle

I could use your near infinite wisdom here, bc those duds in several FB groups are just... duds. Shit talking, not-knowing duds.

I have a RGA with an Edge Pro trem. It originally had a Edge 3. I hate this Edge Pro (as much as the Edge 3) and someone down the line made a chart on sevenstring.org about "what fits an Edge 3 cavity". This said an Original FR will fit, but not a Schaller one. I am escpecially interested in the Lockmeister. So I was comparing both on Thomann (https://www.thomann.de/de/schaller_original_tremolo_lockmeister_c.htm ; https://www.thomann.de/de/floyd_rose_frt100_original_tremolo_chrome.htm), but I don't see any difference here.

Do you know if the Lockmeister 6 will fit an Edge 3 cavity? I surely could just order one and find out, but if there's a way of knowing beforehand, that would be awesome.
 
BahamaDada said:
Hey @Eagle

I could use your near infinite wisdom here, bc those duds in several FB groups are just... duds. Shit talking, not-knowing duds.

I have a RGA with an Edge Pro trem. It originally had a Edge 3. I hate this Edge Pro (as much as the Edge 3) and someone down the line made a chart on sevenstring.org about "what fits an Edge 3 cavity". This said an Original FR will fit, but not a Schaller one. I am escpecially interested in the Lockmeister. So I was comparing both on Thomann (https://www.thomann.de/de/schaller_original_tremolo_lockmeister_c.htm ; https://www.thomann.de/de/floyd_rose_frt100_original_tremolo_chrome.htm), but I don't see any difference here.

Do you know if the Lockmeister 6 will fit an Edge 3 cavity? I surely could just order one and find out, but if there's a way of knowing beforehand, that would be awesome.
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The Lockmiester and the Original Floyd are identical in all but branding. The Floyd fits on the studs and intonates BUT it is a poor fit visually in the rout and sometimes catches on the treble side you would also probably need the 32mm block but measure it first. One other issue is the posts don't fit in the holes and the Floyd doesn't like the angle in the posts that where installed with the Edge 3. IF you have had the Edge Pro body studs installed you can get around this by fitting a set of Gotoh 1996 posts in the Edge pro body inserts (Gotoh make both and this part is shared between the two.)
These are 1996 studs and a useable angle in the V cut for a Floyd.
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These are Edge pro studs and the angles are different. If you use a floyd on these it binds and doesn't return to zero well. The fix is you can just screw in the 1996 set in to the bushing of the Edge pro but it is not the same as the Edge 3 version. The thread is M8 if you want to check.
 
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Eagle said:
The Lockmiester and the Original Floyd are identical in all but branding. The Floyd fits on the studs and intonates BUT it is a poor fit visually in the rout and sometimes catches on the treble side you would also probably need the 32mm block but measure it first. One other issue is the posts don't fit in the holes and the Floyd doesn't like the angle in the posts that where installed with the Edge 3. IF you have had the Edge Pro body studs installed you can get around this by fitting a set of Gotoh 1996 posts in the Edge pro body inserts (Gotoh make both and this part is shared between the two.)
These are 1996 studs and a useable angle in the V cut for a Floyd.View attachment 15708

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These are Edge pro studs and the angles are different. If you use a floyd on these it binds and doesn't return to zero well. The fix is you can just screw in the 1996 set in to the bushing of the Edge pro but it is not the same as the Edge 3 version. The thread is M8 if you want to check.
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Thanks so much @Eagle

I knew you were the right person for this.
 
There will be a different compliance that allows the dead string to influence one more than the other. A neck shim maybe in one introducing small discrepancies in length and angle of the dead string. Tension at pitch between the nut and bridge will be identical if the scale and strings are the same. Similar to top wrapping a Les Paul. It very hard to genuinely set up two similar guitars identically even if the action is exactly the same.
 
JasonE said:
These things are what I call the soul of the guitar. Two exact guitars will react slightly different to the same setup. I usually set a guitar up with some measurements that I know will get me in the ballpark of where I want it to be. I then start tweaking. I find that each guitar likes it's own action setting. I keep making small adjustments until the bends get easy. It is interesting to me how a small change up or down can make a big difference in how the strings bend. These types of things are the real personality of each guitar to me.
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And how do you make the bends easier without altering anything that you want to remain the same?
 
Eagle said:
There will be a different compliance that allows the dead string to influence one more than the other. A neck shim maybe in one introducing small discrepancies in length and angle of the dead string. Tension at pitch between the nut and bridge will be identical if the scale and strings are the same. Similar to top wrapping a Les Paul. It very hard to genuinely set up two similar guitars identically even if the action is exactly the same.
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Thanks for the response. Was just curious on your take.
 
JasonE said:
Nothing is off the table for adjustment. I want the guitar to play a certain way and I will adjust whatever needs to be adjusted to get there.
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How would you affect compliance without action or intonation. What do you think are the governing factors?
 
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