Aliasing

[Orvillain]

At what frequency?

Any frequency that would've originally been above Nyquist, but wraps back around because of a lack of anti-aliasing filtering and oversampling techniques.

 

[DrewJD82]

No guitar, but...

 

[SwirlyMaple]

Any frequency that would've originally been above Nyquist, but wraps back around because of a lack of anti-aliasing filtering and oversampling techniques.

This ^^^ In all seriousness, even though my Mary Had a Little Lamb example was silly, it has VERY audible aliasing on the highest "little lamb." It's so prevalent that it's hard to distinguish the original pitch that provided the input. I did game it a little bit though, because I intentionally chose that highest pitch as one that had the worst aliasing

With guitar, where you don't have pure sine tones, you still get these aliasing overtones on certain pitches due to their harmonics -- but they're underneath everything else so they become hard or impossible to distinguish on their own. It manifests more as a lack of clarity, or a weird "hashiness" behind the sound that you can sorta hear but you wonder if you're taking crazy pills.

It's worst with high-gain tones, but fortunately those have the advantage of also making it the hardest to hear background noise. So anyway, it's there, but you'd likely only be able to perceive it as one modeler or plugin sounding crisper/clearer than others, or having better frequency separation with high gain tones instead of upper harmonics kinda smearing together. This clarity is something I've always heard in Fractal's high gain tones when compared to others, FWIW.

 

[Deleted member 472]

Look to to higher gain tracks before Line 6 increased the oversampling compared to after with the HX platform for examples.

So I checked out a video Jason Sadites did comparing 3.0 to 3.1 (oversampling update). The difference is definitely audible in his raw guitar tracks. I’m just not yet convinced that someone could hear the difference in a mix.

 

[LP59]

It might not jump out at you as a specific sound you can identify as aliasing, but it contributes an unpleasant dissonance or muddiness to the mix.

 

[Gearzilla]

So I checked out a video Jason Sadites did comparing 3.0 to 3.1 (oversampling update). The difference is definitely audible in his raw guitar tracks. I’m just not yet convinced that someone could hear the difference in a mix.

In most cases the underlying music is going to be more important than the nuances. There’s some extremely good guitar work that’s been done with previous generation modelers. Though that’s not to say there isn’t a benefit to better oversampling now and into the future.

 

[Bob Zaod]

 

[Bob Zaod]

No guitar, but...

Thats the first time I've achieved an erection in .06 seconds

 

[DrewJD82]

Thats the first time I've achieved an erection in .06 seconds

Bob skips right over whips and chains and goes straight for “Just fucking shoot me!”

 

[paisleywookiee]

I call this "Mary Had a Little Alias," featuring Helix Native. (But you could do this with just about any plugin/modeler... )

It’s a little strident in the mids.

 

[Deleted member 472]

Still waiting.

 

[Orvillain]

 

[GTR37]

Is that one of @norminal's "finished track" examples though?

Damn, that hurt my ears!

Good for you , your ears are still perfect

I heard dead air although my dog just took a on my carpet

 

[GTR37]

No guitar, but...

This is more than acceptable
Aliasing in any situation

 

[Deleted member 472]

Annnd… still waiting.

 

[GTR37]

Post a finished track or song where aliasing from a guitar through a digital modeler is audible.

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Oh this is going to go great

 

[KingsXJJ]

Certainly is dedicated!

 

[KingsXJJ]

At what frequency?

I’m guessing 3-4.5K generally speaking.

 

[the swede]

Any kemper recording? The kemper sound? The kemper feel?


Jokiiiiiiiiing

 

[Lysander]

Post a finished track or song where aliasing from a guitar through a digital modeler is audible.

Um, if your song/track has audible digital aliasing, maybe it's not finished?

Can't recall any songs with audible aliasing off the top of my head, but it is relatively easy to get digital plugins with low oversampling to alias on mildly high notes. See f.ex:



This guy has a couple of examples of aliasing on vocal mixes without oversampling by the end of the video. The effect is very subtle, mind you, but it is audible.