A lot of people will disagree with my hardware modeler ranking

... and then realize that the thing that prevents me from sounding great is actually my lack of skill rather than any gear related issue :(

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There's just some things you don't say on a guitar gear forum!:hmm
 
The fact that all guitar sites and magazines are shills and receive payment for their rankings and that any modeler can sound drastically different overnight with a firmware upgrade, all cursory reviews are meaningless and are more for entertainment purposes and advertising campaigns.
Even on the outside chance they were valid at one point, they are dated as soon as new code develops.

The only way to rank the devices is to try them all out.

OR..just watch Pete Thorn make everything sound great and be happy knowing that they can all do the job.
Sadly, there is a lot of truth to this. It seems like the review sites and major reviewers land into 2 catagories:

  1. Paid by one or more OEM to slant the discussion in favor of their product
  2. Click bait designed to drive more traffic through their channel
Neither one of which ends up being a good indicator of the usefulness of one device over the other to a particular user.

I would argue that most people aren't going to purchase one of each of the units, and use them with enough depth to determine (on their own with their own experiences) which device best fits their needs. This is very costly and very time consuming.

While I have to agree with you that the reviews all seem to lack objectivity, some are still much better than others.

What I did was to find people who had moved from a high end boutique tube amp rig, that gigged like I do with their rig, and see which digital amp they used. These people are my gold standard. Most anyone who was using a VHT, Fender Blackface, Friedman, Soldano, Dumble, etc that were very satisfied with their digital amp would likely be right up my alley of taste.

I looked at what worked for people that previously used the best tube amp rigs money could buy. When I did this (in 2013), Kemper and Fractal were the only serious contenders in THAT space.

Today, Line 6 has significantly upped their game from the old pods of the past, QC has entered the market and did "Kemper Profiling" better than Kemper did it, and even Fender has an up-and-coming digital amp that is improving quickly.

If I were to change lanes again today, there would be many more contenders for me to consider.

Now, I have had time on most of these devices as I have friends that gig that own them. Not the kind of time it would take to get each one as dialed in as my Kemper, but enough to see what they can do. That is also a good exercise ..... but seriously, how many people are going to take even this amount of time to qualify a device?

I think the best resource is people doing what you want to do with their rigs that previously had tube amp rigs that were top of the line they were using to do it.
 
"Play" as in "playing a guitar"? Are you mad, good sir? Who does such a thing?
Agreed.. strange behavior. I haven’t touched my guitar in a year. Yet I’m all over this damn place, I’m sorting my pedals and cables in my old fart desk, bought a new pedal board, going down to the basement when the kids are sleeping and place pedals in different combinations but don’t hook anything up, put them in the drawer one evening and the next pick them up again and fondle them. God knows what the fuck happens if i actually velcro something to the board… that’s a huge thought. To much…

I think i may open the guitar case tomorrow and just hold the guitar, realize it’s out of tune, contemplating tuning it, but the new tuner i just bought isn’t hooked up, so I’ll probably just wait to the next weekend.


This is all true. No joke.
 
While I agree that playing guitar is MUCH more fun that dinking around with pedals (for me anyway), This particular thread is about people that dink around with pedals and give their opinion on which pedal is best.

I don't think it is unusual for people interested in reviews to comment on the reviews. It certainly doesn't mean that none of us here actually PLAY a guitar frequently. I play many hours a week. Even get paid to do it (which is crazy since I actually like doing it. I tell people I play for free and charge to move the PA :).
 
While I agree that playing guitar is MUCH more fun that dinking around with pedals (for me anyway), This particular thread is about people that dink around with pedals and give their opinion on which pedal is best.

I don't think it is unusual for people interested in reviews to comment on the reviews. It certainly doesn't mean that none of us here actually PLAY a guitar frequently. I play many hours a week. Even get paid to do it (which is crazy since I actually like doing it. I tell people I play for free and charge to move the PA :).

Ahaha, good strategy. Sadly, I don’t own a car after nearly killing myself in a wreck some time ago (I like to go fast), so this would only mean me handing someone my paycheque.

On the subject of playing, I try and play everyday if I can help it. I suck, but that’s another thing altogether.
 
Ahaha, good strategy. Sadly, I don’t own a car after nearly killing myself in a wreck some time ago (I like to go fast), so this would only mean me handing someone my paycheque.

On the subject of playing, I try and play everyday if I can help it. I suck, but that’s another thing altogether.
LOL. Sorry to hear about the wreck.

I "Like" to play every day as well; however, generally speaking, I get a couple hours in 2 or 3 times a week these days between work and "Honey Do" lists at home! I gig a couple of times a month and band practices once a week for about 4 hours on top of the private practice time. That's sadly about all the time I can allocate to my beloved guitar hobby and maintain marital bliss :).

I was practicing and performing with another guy as a Duo on top of my full band. That caused some friction.

Hmmm. I wonder if things would have been different if I were using a different pedal than my Kemper :crazy
 
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