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[likitlikeyoulikeit]

I love how people are still arguing and ruining this man's new guitar day post......what a joy kill.

Sorry @maguchi I love your guitar, and your jazz, no matter how you do what you do.....you do you...maybe change the title, it may help.

Maybe this needs to be changed to a, "hi, I have many opinions on Gibsons manufacturing methods ands quality control". Thread.

Not trying to be a dick. Well...not anymore than anyone else.

Cheers

 

[HotRats]

Yes but it does make them look pretty bad compared with other brands. Literally no other brand says manufacturing slop is just something that you should suck up this price point.

that's fair, sloppiness can't be justified with legacy and I don't think that Gibson does that, at least not explicitly.

on the other hand, their inability to have a bulletproof QC is kind of a "suck it up" message sent to the customer.

 

[Los-D]

You are right, they have done this several times and had to reverse because of their customer reaction.

I always thought the “Modern” line would be just that: design and manufacturing improvements to make it compete with something like a PRS, where the “Traditional” would be 50s/60s specs and process. But maybe the ROI isn’t there to have separate processes, or lack of vision (or simply hubris/ego kicks in), etc…

@maguchi, that is one beautiful gold top. P90s FTW. Enjoy it!!!

 

[HomespunEffects]

I love how people are still arguing and ruining this man's new guitar day post......what a joy kill.

Sorry @maguchi I love your guitar, and your jazz, no matter how you do what you do.....you do you...maybe change the title, it may help.

Maybe this needs to be changed to a, "hi, I have many opinions on Gibsons manufacturing methods ands quality control". Thread.

Not trying to be a dick. Well...not anymore than anyone else.

Cheers

He asked about QC issues in the title though. You can’t discount others’ experiences like that and expect no push-back.

 

[Eagle]

that's fair, sloppiness can't be justified with legacy and I don't think that Gibson does that, at least not explicitly.

on the other hand, their inability to have a bulletproof QC is kind of a "suck it up" message sent to the customer.

PRS ,Suhr and others raised the bar but Gibson ignored them. In fairness to Gibson the Murphy Lab guitars are the best they have ever produced. These double down vintage replicas are better than most originals and are extremely faithful to the small details. Credit where it is due.

 

[HomespunEffects]

You are right, they have done this several times and had to reverse because of their customer reaction.

They changed the headstock on a Les Paul or SG?

 

[Eagle]

They changed the headstock on a Les Paul or SG?

Yes they reduced the angle to14degrees and added a volute. Some models switched to a three piece maple neck.

 

[FuzzyAce]

If anyone's interested I started a thread for qc related issues. A catch-all for this kind of stuff? @Eagle , I'm counting on you!
https://thegearforum.com/threads/quality-control-design-improvements-cost.6638/

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

He asked about QC issues in the title though. You can’t discount others’ experiences like that and expect no push-back.

Which is why I suggested that op change the title.

I've done my good deeds for the day...have a great day all!!!

 

[HomespunEffects]

Yes they reduced the angle to14degrees and added a volute. Some models switched to a three piece maple neck.

Thanks. I didn’t know. They should have gone to about 11° and moved the A D G B pegs in toward the middle.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Which is why I suggested that op change the title.

I've done my good deeds for the day...have a great day all!!!

 

[EOengineer]

Yeah it got weird fast. I started it out as NGD and a vote of confidence for Gibson guitars and it went south. Oh well, I'll have to be more careful not to irritate any haters.

We’re usually pretty friendly around here, with some thick skinned ribbing happening every so often in good fun, but if you can’t look at your thread title and understand why the conversation drifted beyond just your new guitar…well…I don’t know how to help you.

Anyway. I’ve bought 2 brand new Gibsons over the last couple years, and both have fairly obvious finish flaws from the factory.

Don’t get me wrong, they are both AMAZING playing and sounding instruments, that’s why they came home, but both have binding and fretboard flaws. One has an obvious paint flaw at the neck joint. My SG standard has a bridge pickup that I’m still not fully certain works 100%.

They are unique instruments and they vary in their finish precision by quite a bit. It is what it is. Nobody is attacking your instrument choices.

 

[greatmutah]

Happy Belated New Goldtop Day!!! Two things. First, I love Goldtops. See my R7. A good Goldtop is an absolute gem in any Les Paul collection.



Second, Gibson P90s are great. I have no doubt that Lollar, ThroBak or whomever else makes a great P90 but I’ve never disliked the Gibson ones I have in my SG. I think the only other ones I’d honestly be curious about are Wolfetones. But I love the P90s in my SG. They’ve got PAF like mids but with some single coil snarl. Love em.



As to Gibson QC, most of mine have been bought used so any issues they may have had were probably corrected in some capacity over time, if they had them. Same with my Heritage guitars as they pretty much built the same. On a new Gibson, the only thing I ever encountered was the nut cut too deep on my SG. A trip to my luthier and it was sorted out with a new unbleached bone nut. Which I preferred anyway. The only issue I’d have with buying a brand new Gibson is the prices today for some of them.

 

[EOengineer]

Happy Belated New Goldtop Day!!! Two things. First, I love Goldtops. See my R7. A good Goldtop is an absolute gem in any Les Paul collection.



Second, Gibson P90s are great. I have no doubt that Lollar, ThroBak or whomever else makes a great P90 but I’ve never disliked the Gibson ones I have in my SG. I think the only other ones I’d honestly be curious about are Wolfetones. But I love the P90s in my SG. They’ve got PAF like mids but with some single coil snarl. Love em.



As to Gibson QC, most of mine have been bought used so any issues they may have had were probably corrected in some capacity over time, if they had them. Same with my Heritage guitars as they pretty much built the same. On a new Gibson, the only thing I ever encountered was the nut cut too deep on my SG. A trip to my luthier and it was sorted out with a new unbleached bone nut. Which I preferred anyway. The only issue I’d have with buying a brand new Gibson is the prices today for some of them.

Gibson P90s are killer. I’ve always considered them to be the standard by which all other P90s are measured. Lots of love here for the factory P90s in my LP Special, they sound incredible.