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I love wah! My favorite is just the standard Cry Baby. I’ve used it so much it just feels the most comfortable and natural to me.
I like to use wah to add a vocal sort of quality to lines, and I also love to use it like a phaser where I can manually control the sweep to fit the music. I also get lots of music that calls for the wakka-wakka funk thing.
I hate digital wah though, so I’d sort of stopped using it for a while. Planning to get back into it now
I like to use wah to add a vocal sort of quality to lines, and I also love to use it like a phaser where I can manually control the sweep to fit the music. I also get lots of music that calls for the wakka-wakka funk thing.
I hate digital wah though, so I’d sort of stopped using it for a while. Planning to get back into it now
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Is the 535q switchless with spring return?
I like switchless with springs because I can throw some wah sweeps on the fly here and there.
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No, it isn’t.
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Sascha Franck
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Fwiw, I absolutely love my CryBaby 535Q (the big original), but it's gathering dust simply because I got spoiled by expression pedals on modelers. Started back with the GT-10 already, continued at some point with the Helix Floor and the internal one of the GT-1000 is pretty nice as well (the wahs aren't particularly great, though, but fine for live).
The reason being that I just absolutely love longer treadle travel, which most standard wahs don't deliver (had a Morley once, great travel range but I never liked the sound).
These days I use either a Hotone Soulpress II (which is what I used for the clip I posted) or the GT's EXP pedal. Thought about having the Hotone modified so it'd be switchable between Wah and EXP instead of Wah/Vol, but it's not good enough to spend the money and time. But I really wish someone would come up with something like that. Ideally it's gonna be Digitech and the thing should be switchable between Wah, Whammy and EXP (the reason for EXP being that I want my volume pedal to sit behind the amp).
Not gonna lie, this is one of the reasons for me to possibly purchase a HX Stadium one day. Their EXP pedals are nice and I like the wahs as well.
The reason being that I just absolutely love longer treadle travel, which most standard wahs don't deliver (had a Morley once, great travel range but I never liked the sound).
These days I use either a Hotone Soulpress II (which is what I used for the clip I posted) or the GT's EXP pedal. Thought about having the Hotone modified so it'd be switchable between Wah and EXP instead of Wah/Vol, but it's not good enough to spend the money and time. But I really wish someone would come up with something like that. Ideally it's gonna be Digitech and the thing should be switchable between Wah, Whammy and EXP (the reason for EXP being that I want my volume pedal to sit behind the amp).
Not gonna lie, this is one of the reasons for me to possibly purchase a HX Stadium one day. Their EXP pedals are nice and I like the wahs as well.
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Yeah, he had one on his studio board, next to a Crybaby in a Rig Rundown from 12 years ago-
but I'm fairly certain the following rundown from whatever tour he went on after that studio vid was shot he had dropped the Morley and even noted something along the lines of "Sometimes you just want to use something different for a little while"
They were on his board from '99-'13-sh, the first time I ever saw one was at his show on the Ultra Zone. I also didn't get along with it, for a while I thought I went through two of them but the buddy I gave it to reminded me how it went down; first the optical part wasn't functioning right, I think the little flap that blocks it was messed up and that buddy fixed it. Then at a practice I the treadle somehow bent sideways and I was so pissed with the thing at that point I tossed it on the couch and told my buddy it was his. Dude is still rockin' it 26 years later.
Edit- yep, Story Of Light tour it was gone.
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IIRC, on the Where The Wild Things Are DVD, he is not using the Morley, even though on the potato-cam rig rundown that Guitar World did with him during rehearsals for that tour, he did have the Morley on the board. I'm guessing he had the Morley set up for the rundown because it was a "showcase" thing he was doing. I've not seen it on his boards at an actual gig for a very very long time!
EDIT: thanks for the Rebecca Dirks-era Rig Rundown nostalgia trip tho! I think this rundown is still the second-most viewed video on PG's channel? (EDIT2: just checked, it isn't anymore but it's definitely up there amongst the most viewed.)
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Nobody serious about wahs is allowed to skip these:
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James Freeman
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I'm adding a 535Q to my CAE.
The CAE is good but the Red/Yellow inductor difference is done by changing the range cap, so the 535Q is more versatile than the CAE having 6 range caps options instead of just 2.
The whole inductor craze is such nonsens, same value inductor will sound the same in the same circuit. But hey, if a different plasic color prints money for Dunlop good for them.
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CAE Red vs Yellow;
535Q Range 1 (highest) vs CAE Yellow Inductor:
I'm hearing way more bass in the CAE which makes the wah sound more balanced and less thin without changing the quack, but the Q is pretty much identical and supposedly sounds like the standard GCB95 crybaby.
535Q with same range as CAE Red Inductor, vastly different in Q, Gain and bass content.
Adjusting Q and Boost on the 535Q to match the CAE as close as I can:
That's Range setting 5 (one before last) on the 535Q.
So apparently the Red setting on the CAE is changing more than just the Inductor, it also changes Range, Q, Gain, and probably more.
What's interesting is the Yellow setting in the CAE sounds like the 535Q which has the Red inductor, which again tells me the Red/Yellow switch isn't changing just the inductor.
The CAE is a great wah, I recommend it both in Yellow and Red settings.
535Q Range 1 (highest) vs CAE Yellow Inductor:
I'm hearing way more bass in the CAE which makes the wah sound more balanced and less thin without changing the quack, but the Q is pretty much identical and supposedly sounds like the standard GCB95 crybaby.
535Q with same range as CAE Red Inductor, vastly different in Q, Gain and bass content.
Adjusting Q and Boost on the 535Q to match the CAE as close as I can:
That's Range setting 5 (one before last) on the 535Q.
So apparently the Red setting on the CAE is changing more than just the Inductor, it also changes Range, Q, Gain, and probably more.
What's interesting is the Yellow setting in the CAE sounds like the 535Q which has the Red inductor, which again tells me the Red/Yellow switch isn't changing just the inductor.
The CAE is a great wah, I recommend it both in Yellow and Red settings.
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James Freeman
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Both the CAE and 535Q are like a computer inside.
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Cool stuff!!
I had a Friedman Gold 72 show up today along with a Fasel Crybaby, and the Friedman
feels like a freaking toy. It is so light. Must be some kind of composite enclosure. It's
definitely sub-Behringer quality. But I only paid $60 for it, so there is that.
I am taking both to band practice tonight and will report back if it makes it through
without falling apart. :lol
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@James Freeman you're definitely a class of its own when it comes to graphs and analysis. THANKS for these!
In other news, someone might've just ordered himself a Morley 20/20 Power Fuzz Wah, mainly out of curiosity, and since he only has 1 lonely wah so far.
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Shaft was an excellent film soundtrack album
It changed the landscape of motion picture sound tracks for ever and put Isaac Hayes on the world map but this is still the real quality album.The late great Curtis Mayfield did the film track ting in 1972 with Super Fly
The songs are still as relevant today as they were back then.
Loads of Fuzz and Wah and other effects on this outstanding album.
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Down here I seem to be restricted to a Dunlop Cry Baby, Vox, Ibanez, or Behringer.
The Ronson Cry Baby is very tempting (because of Mick Ronson, its looks and good reports) and so is the Dimebag one (because most seem to love it) but I think the Mini will suit my needs best.
The Ibanez looks interesting and fuzz-friendly but I'm put off by the large volume jump some people report.
The Ronson Cry Baby is very tempting (because of Mick Ronson, its looks and good reports) and so is the Dimebag one (because most seem to love it) but I think the Mini will suit my needs best.
The Ibanez looks interesting and fuzz-friendly but I'm put off by the large volume jump some people report.
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PSA - Morley power wah SDOTD today https://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid?icid=210190
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Is that the WH10 you are referring to? I think they have a MKIII version out now that is supposed
to have addressed that.
There are also some builders who are cloning that circuit.
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