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I don’t mind if you like them. @Richard_G may like them, too.
They sure don’t sound like G12-Ms though and that’s the common trope.
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They sure don’t sound like G12-Ms though and that’s the common trope.
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I had my 2466 for a couple years before I tried the matching cabinet. They’re pretty scarce. So i just used my 2x12 with Greenbacks or Peavey 4x12 with Sheffield 1290s.
Everyone told me i needed to use the 425A with it to get the most out of it. However, once I did track one down, I was just disappointed. Even the Sheffields sounded better (which were replaced with G12T-75s). I guess I was just deflated by the experience and that’s why I always suggest trying just about anything else with the Vintage Modern combo. I got my money out of the 425A and I guess the guy is happy with it but he just wanted the cabinet to match. I just wasn’t happy with it at all.
If you like them, awesome. But try other speakers. Just my suggestion.
Everyone told me i needed to use the 425A with it to get the most out of it. However, once I did track one down, I was just disappointed. Even the Sheffields sounded better (which were replaced with G12T-75s). I guess I was just deflated by the experience and that’s why I always suggest trying just about anything else with the Vintage Modern combo. I got my money out of the 425A and I guess the guy is happy with it but he just wanted the cabinet to match. I just wasn’t happy with it at all.
If you like them, awesome. But try other speakers. Just my suggestion.
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I wasn’t huge on the G12C’s either, except maybe for cleaner tones. For gainier stuff they’re not my favourite.
I love m25’s, H30’s, V30’s etc with the Vintage Modern. All the usual suspects really, it’s very much a Marshall circuit and sound and will pair nicely with all the typical Marshall speakers.
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Here's some G12C info from Steve Dawson, designer of the Vintage Modern series:
"Steve D wrote:
The G12C is modeled on an original G12M from 1966 to 67.
The G12C greenback's were referenced from a particularly fine set of mid 60s G12Ms.
The G12C is a G12M but voiced after a particularly nice vintage reference we had access to. We couldn't call it a G12M because that was already taken obviously, so we called it G12C which simply stands for G12 Ceramic. It is exclusive to the Limited Edition Hendrix and the Vintage Modern Series.
The G12C has been voiced to be the same as an original 'Golden Reference containing G12M's' we had which was absolutely beautiful - warm, balanced and woody.
On the difference between the G12M Heritage and the G12C: They are both versions of the original G12-Ms. They shouldn't really differ in punch, only voicing. They are both great speakers but the G12-C was specially devoloped to complement the Hendrix SUER100JH.
The G12-C is the speaker I developed with Celestion when I was doing the SUPER100JH. I couldn't find a current 'off the shelf' greenback that sounded 'right on the nose' for the early Hendrix sound (especially when a full stack of them was used) so I made some tweaks and tunings and finally arrived at what we eventually called the G12-C.
We couldn't call it a G12-M as that was already taken so we decided on G12-C which is what Celestion called their greenbacks before dividing them into Ms and Hs (The C stands for 'Ceramic' by the way which refers to the magnet material).
I decided to use the G12-Cs with the Vintage Modern range because it's fundamental tone is from that same period - 66 to 68.
SPKR-00095 = G12C with spade terminals and manufactured in China by Celestion’s OEM partner ‘GPE’ as used in the Vintage Modern series.
SPKR-00092 = G12C with solder terminals and manufactured in Celestions UK factory in Ipswich, as used in the Hendrix SUPER100JH 1982A and B cabs.
There is absolutely no sonic difference between the two at all."
"Steve D wrote:
The G12C is modeled on an original G12M from 1966 to 67.
The G12C greenback's were referenced from a particularly fine set of mid 60s G12Ms.
The G12C is a G12M but voiced after a particularly nice vintage reference we had access to. We couldn't call it a G12M because that was already taken obviously, so we called it G12C which simply stands for G12 Ceramic. It is exclusive to the Limited Edition Hendrix and the Vintage Modern Series.
The G12C has been voiced to be the same as an original 'Golden Reference containing G12M's' we had which was absolutely beautiful - warm, balanced and woody.
On the difference between the G12M Heritage and the G12C: They are both versions of the original G12-Ms. They shouldn't really differ in punch, only voicing. They are both great speakers but the G12-C was specially devoloped to complement the Hendrix SUER100JH.
The G12-C is the speaker I developed with Celestion when I was doing the SUPER100JH. I couldn't find a current 'off the shelf' greenback that sounded 'right on the nose' for the early Hendrix sound (especially when a full stack of them was used) so I made some tweaks and tunings and finally arrived at what we eventually called the G12-C.
We couldn't call it a G12-M as that was already taken so we decided on G12-C which is what Celestion called their greenbacks before dividing them into Ms and Hs (The C stands for 'Ceramic' by the way which refers to the magnet material).
I decided to use the G12-Cs with the Vintage Modern range because it's fundamental tone is from that same period - 66 to 68.
SPKR-00095 = G12C with spade terminals and manufactured in China by Celestion’s OEM partner ‘GPE’ as used in the Vintage Modern series.
SPKR-00092 = G12C with solder terminals and manufactured in Celestions UK factory in Ipswich, as used in the Hendrix SUPER100JH 1982A and B cabs.
There is absolutely no sonic difference between the two at all."
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