The ONLY pedal test I have seen that actually is representative . KLON and KLONE

Sorry (no, not really) for getting back at this

Eagle said:
If you like it it’s valid but analog is different and if you don’t have a DAC in the chain it certainly isn’t worth adding one for this.
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If we leave all the measuring (which might be nice to have) out for a while, throughout all the actual listening tests this device has been used:

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I guess that doesn't count as "having a DAC in the chain", right?
 
Depends on the bypass when not in use . If it’s analog and you can’t hear it it’s fine.
It also depends on what you start out with. A fantastic sounding one channel tube amp will show everything. A digital model even reduces the nuances in changing pickups . The fewer components in the chain makes each item more likely to be audible if you change it in some way .
Start simple keep it pure and simple and everything matters.
 
Eagle said:
Depends on the bypass when not in use . If it’s analog and you can’t hear it it’s fine.
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He's using the looper portion for comparisons. Which is always digital, hence ignoring any aspects of possible impedance interactions, which can be quite a delicate thing in an analog environment.
 
Sascha Franck said:
He's using the looper portion for comparisons. Which is always digital, hence ignoring any aspects of possible impedance interactions, which can be quite a delicate thing in an analog environment.
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The signal in to the klon klone is the same though in each case so any degradation has already occurred and is present in all the examples so the comparison remains valid.
A DAC matters to me if I hear a detrimental influence on my core tone. The bypass on any pedal has to good enough for me to be worth using. I have had many analog devices in the past that I was only happy to use in a high quality looper. Common is a loss of high end and dynamics. Some buffers sound bad to me enough to stop me buying the pedal. Sometimes you may like the effect. Strymon’s so called dry through sounds like a BBE on a low setting. Horrible.
 
Sascha Franck said:
It went through a ADDA process. Hence, there's exactly zero interaction between the guitar and the pedal anymore.
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Yes and how do you propose to do a better test?
You can’t play the same part over exactly and observing only gets you the sound . This is the only realistic valid test method unless you have them in front of you.
 
Eagle said:
Yes and how do you propose to do a better test?
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I don't propose anything. I was just getting somewhat annoyed about you to keep harping how great an all analog signal path would be and how great of a test this would be - only to find a cheap ass looper being the very first thing in the signal chain, adding the coloration of what certainly aren't the most shiny ADDA converters and efficiently destroying any guitar-pedal interaction.
 
Sascha Franck said:
I don't propose anything. I was just getting somewhat annoyed about you to keep harping how great an all analog signal path would be and how great of a test this would be - only to find a cheap ass looper being the very first thing in the signal chain, adding the coloration of what certainly aren't the most shiny ADDA converters and efficiently destroying any guitar-pedal interaction.
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Either propose a better alternative or don’t post in the thread. This test method is pretty much as good as you can get without the pedals in front of you. It’s not just an all analog signal that matters it’s one that preserves the sonic integrity of your amp .Assuming you like it. There is no ADDA conversion that doesn’t change the sound to the detriment of either the sound quality or the dynamics,both usually. Also don’t you like cheap ass shit ?
 
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