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I wonder what the price target was and what was a reasonable price to sell it at. But a Jazz Chorus into the same speaker cab as for the dirty sounds? Ummm I don't know about that one - unless it also had multiple outputs?
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I was thinking the same thing. The speakers and cab are a part of the jc120 thing. I know there are heads but I never notice anyone using them. There might be pictures of Hets rig with a 120 head somewhere. Hard to say.
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That is one beautiful amp (both in looks and sound). I love that it's in such mint condition, too.
Word on the street is that Mesa is releasing a IIC+ HRG reissue next. Coming in December but someone apparently already got it.
Is it really a big difference between HRG and DRG?
Question is also if they will keep selling the DRG or if that will be dropped once the HRG is released.
Is it really a big difference between HRG and DRG?
Question is also if they will keep selling the DRG or if that will be dropped once the HRG is released.
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So DRG = 60W, HRG = 100W, right?
Sounds like Gibson has started squeezing the shit out of Mesa's legacy.
No, SRG = 60W. DRG is the Simul-Class thing at 75W. HRG is 100W, yes.
Not sure what the sonic differences between them though.
Yes for sure. On the other hand, this is also kind of what many many players want. The modern stuff have a lot of convenient things, but still many players want the vintage/classic stuff, either for sound, non-simplified controls (i.e. exposed input drive and all the pull pots) or just the look of it. Some want it for status.
I think they'll reissue probably the entire Mark series.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that Simul-Class is basically running each pair of power tubes with a different bias and then using them together. HRG likely configures them all for maximum output power.
I expect a lot of these variants of the IIC were just something that was relatively easy for Mesa to offer as options and to provide different price ranges. It seems you had a base price and could choose "performance options" like the GEQ, reverb and 100W option.
I'd guess the effect of 75W vs 100W is about the same as toggling the power settings on my Mark V, namely slight differences in how punchy it sounds, how it feels to play etc.
I think there were enough people who wanted a legit IIC+ reissue, considering the cost of the originals and how the V/VII are different beasts. But releasing a IIC++ limited edition and a 100W version shortly after seems like pulling the rug under those people, who might've wanted the IIC++ or 100W if it was originally offered.
With reissues you run into dumb issues like "it has to be done like the original" rather than re-imagined to e.g include IIC++ mod on a switch or maybe a 3-way 100W/Simul-Class/Class A switch. If it's not like the original then there's going to be some jackass complaining how all those things "rob tone" or "don't sound like the real $6-8K vintage original".
I don't see there being enough people who specifically want a Mark III reissue. Most people buy the originals because they don't cost a ton compared to the vintage IIC models. Will that stop Gibson from making a reissue? Most likely not.
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