Synergy Owners Thread

Baba said:
I'm with you there. I haven't heard a 20 yet, and that might be all I need for my small club gigs, but at the same time, I don't want it wimpy sounding.
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I'm sure it's more than fine but I know better than to think a 50 watt "Dual Rectifier" is going to cause some twitches in me, let alone the 20 watt version :oops::LOL:
 
Synergy currently list 26 modules on their website. I'd group them as follows;

Straight up Marshall
- JMP
- JCM800
- Metroplex

Marshall adjacent
- Friedman BE-BB, DS, BE-Dlx
- Ecstasy
- Killer Kali
- Vai?
- Bman

The Rest
- IICP
- Imperial
- TDLX
- OS
- DRECT
- ENGL Savage, Powerball
- Freyette Deliverance, UL
- Diezel VH4, Herbert
- Z Wreck
- SLO II
- 6505
- Uberschall
- Morgan AC

Yeah you can argue a lot of those have a bunch of Marshall DNA, but nobody buys an Uberschall to sound like AC/DC.

A Jubilee and JVM would be awesome though.
 
2112 said:
Synergy currently list 26 modules on their website. I'd group them as follows;

Straight up Marshall
- JMP
- JCM800
- Metroplex

Marshall adjacent
- Friedman BE-BB, DS, BE-Dlx
- Ecstasy
- Killer Kali
- Vai?
- Bman

The Rest
- IICP
- Imperial
- TDLX
- OS
- DRECT
- ENGL Savage, Powerball
- Freyette Deliverance, UL
- Diezel VH4, Herbert
- Z Wreck
- SLO II
- 6505
- Uberschall
- Morgan AC

Yeah you can argue a lot of those have a bunch of Marshall DNA, but nobody buys an Uberschall to sound like AC/DC.

A Jubilee and JVM would be awesome though.
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If you want to further break it down:

Straight up Marshall
- JMP
- JCM800
- Metroplex

Marshall-based
- Friedman BE-BB, DS, BE-Dlx
- Ecstasy
- Killer Kali
- Vai

Straight up Fender:
- TDLX
- Bman

Fender-based:
- IICP
- Imperial
- OS

Hiwatt-based:
- Fryette Deliverance, UL

Vox-based:
- Morgan AC

Trainwreck-based:
- Z Wreck

The Rest
- DRECT
- ENGL Savage, Powerball
- Diezel VH4, Herbert
- SLO II
- 6505
- Uberschall

You could probably slap the lineage of "the rest" all under "Marshall-based" if you want.

IMO there is a helluva lot of overlap in the module lineup where owning a lot of modules and playing them through the same cab you'd probably find them to be small variations of about the same thing. Sometimes that variation can make or break it, sometimes it's too close to something you already had.

If I were to jump into the Synergy system, I'd be mostly interested in the Killer Kali, Imperial, Z-Wreck and Ultra-Lead modules for being more unique stuff. But I won't until they make a dual module unit with the SYN20-IR feature set because I know I'd just consider it an annoyance to swap the modules regularly.
 
laxu said:
If you want to further break it down:

Straight up Marshall
- JMP
- JCM800
- Metroplex

Marshall-based
- Friedman BE-BB, DS, BE-Dlx
- Ecstasy
- Killer Kali
- Vai

Straight up Fender:
- TDLX
- Bman

Fender-based:
- IICP
- Imperial
- OS

Hiwatt-based:
- Fryette Deliverance, UL

Vox-based:
- Morgan AC

Trainwreck-based:
- Z Wreck

The Rest
- DRECT
- ENGL Savage, Powerball
- Diezel VH4, Herbert
- SLO II
- 6505
- Uberschall

You could probably slap the lineage of "the rest" all under "Marshall-based" if you want.

IMO there is a helluva lot of overlap in the module lineup where owning a lot of modules and playing them through the same cab you'd probably find them to be small variations of about the same thing. Sometimes that variation can make or break it, sometimes it's too close to something you already had.

If I were to jump into the Synergy system, I'd be mostly interested in the Killer Kali, Imperial, Z-Wreck and Ultra-Lead modules for being more unique stuff. But I won't until they make a dual module unit with the SYN20-IR feature set because I know I'd just consider it an annoyance to swap the modules regularly.
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The Drect, SLO/SLOII, and 6505 should be under Marshall based.
 
laxu said:
If you want to further break it down:

Straight up Marshall
- JMP
- JCM800
- Metroplex

Marshall-based
- Friedman BE-BB, DS, BE-Dlx
- Ecstasy
- Killer Kali
- Vai

Straight up Fender:
- TDLX
- Bman

Fender-based:
- IICP
- Imperial
- OS

Hiwatt-based:
- Fryette Deliverance, UL

Vox-based:
- Morgan AC

Trainwreck-based:
- Z Wreck

The Rest
- DRECT
- ENGL Savage, Powerball
- Diezel VH4, Herbert
- SLO II
- 6505
- Uberschall

You could probably slap the lineage of "the rest" all under "Marshall-based" if you want.

IMO there is a helluva lot of overlap in the module lineup where owning a lot of modules and playing them through the same cab you'd probably find them to be small variations of about the same thing. Sometimes that variation can make or break it, sometimes it's too close to something you already had.

If I were to jump into the Synergy system, I'd be mostly interested in the Killer Kali, Imperial, Z-Wreck and Ultra-Lead modules for being more unique stuff. But I won't until they make a dual module unit with the SYN20-IR feature set because I know I'd just consider it an annoyance to swap the modules regularly.
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The original 800 and Plexi modules as well plus the Friedman HBE, if we’re adding more Marshall-esque ones.
 
PhilA said:
The SLO is based on a Mesa the Engl is well very Engl all amps are technically based on something Fendery or Marshalls but calling them either is kinda going a bit literal.

Mught as well say why are all Synergy modules Marshall or Fender based if we’re gonna be that literal.
Ok I missed Vox and Hiwatt 🤪
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It just comes down to how far down the road you want to go, e.g. JMP could be called Fender Bassman-based, and that's probably originally based on some RCA tube project manual.

SLO is only taking from Mesa the idea of using cascading gain stages.

Mesa Mark IIC preamp is basically input stage -> Fender tonestack -> gain stages -> graphic EQ.
SLO preamp is input stages -> cold clipper (like JCM800, but different values) -> gain stage -> cathode follower (like Marshall) -> Marshall tone stack

Ultimately a lot of the building blocks are the same on all amps these days and what specific values are used where determine how it sounds, where the tonestack is placed etc.
 
JiveTurkey said:
I'm sure it's more than fine but I know better than to think a 50 watt "Dual Rectifier" is going to cause some twitches in me, let alone the 20 watt version :oops::LOL:
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So funny, all a SYN20ir would do for me, is add another piece of gear to carry, so I'm not even sure why I get so interested when a new module comes out :rofl
 
laxu said:
It just comes down to how far down the road you want to go, e.g. JMP could be called Fender Bassman-based, and that's probably originally based on some RCA tube project manual.

SLO is only taking from Mesa the idea of using cascading gain stages.

Mesa Mark IIC preamp is basically input stage -> Fender tonestack -> gain stages -> graphic EQ.
SLO preamp is input stages -> cold clipper (like JCM800, but different values) -> gain stage -> cathode follower (like Marshall) -> Marshall tone stack

Ultimately a lot of the building blocks are the same on all amps these days and what specific values are used where determine how it sounds, where the tonestack is placed etc.
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Not really related to Synergy directly but the SLO also differs from Marshall in having a 6L6 power stage too so another big difference.
 
Desertdweller said:
I was hoping for an ADA MP1 module. Yet another 800 is disappointing.
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We knew it was coming, though, since they formed the partnership w/ Marshall and discontinued the Syn 800, so not really much a let down IMHO.

I thought the OG 800 was pretty great and was designed by Friedman and it's gain went into the 'Hot Rod' zone. I guess the phase inverter thing is cool and all but I have a ton of power amps. So, yeah, this is a no-op for a lot of us but was expected.

I guess the Presence thing is the bonus. The phase inverter thing probably helps the module get more into the gain territory that people expect from it but I am not sure it even makes sense considering its likely how they are justifying the $50 price bump. (Although I guess prices going up is inevitable in this mkt).
 
The modules I already have are the OG Friedman BE, the OG Soldano SLO, and the Fortin Killer Kali. I’m still interested in this Marshall JCM800 module, and I’d also be interested in a Marshall JVM module. And yes, I also like my Bogner Shiva 20th amp. I guess I like different variations on the same theme.
 
If you owned a VHT/Fryette Sig:X once upon a time, and wanted to scratch that itch, would the Deliverance be a good option? Obviously the poweramp is going to be different and the preamp options are a bit different, so I'm not looking for it to be 1:1.
 
I think the official collab is awesome for the platform and having improved JMP and JCM modules is badass. There are plenty of souped variants on offer, and if anything it will get us one step closer to an official Silver Jubilee or 900 SLX (fingers crossed) and a JVM.

Plus, with the design for three tubes mods now, it will open up other interesting possibilities for modules moving forward.

Synergy has been killing it imo.

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Do you need some kind of Synergy housing to run these or they can be sitting on a shelf independant?

I can see the SYN-1 is the desktop one... is there drawbacks on this vs the 50 watt head? (Obviously power but I'd be using these for recording/loadbox).

I was thinking if they're purely preamp modules and can be powered independently then pairing it with the wampler pedalhead could be a pretty killer combo. Just not sure if you need the synergy module as well to power them or if I'm missing something about the setup.
 
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