Sonulab Stompstation Pro (NAM player pedal)

[Sedaxel]

It’s part of the trade-off between different attributes. You can’t have everything perfectly suited to your needs across all dimensions.

Yeah, sure. But all manufacturers seem to prioritize the same.

I would much preferred if they hadn't put the middle switch. Only two, but useable. Just as the Nano Cortex.

Of course, these are all personal preferences... But honestly, find those switches completely useless live.

 

[Chocol8]

Yeah, sure. But all manufacturers seem to prioritize the same.

I would much preferred if they hadn't put the middle switch. Only two, but useable. Just as the Nano Cortex.

Of course, these are all personal preferences... But honestly, find those switches completely useless live.

I find when there are three like this the outside two are just as usable as if the third wasn't there, but the trend of tight spacing seems to be demand driven. Samller devices are selling better than big ones.

 

[ericbr1]

It’s part of the trade-off between different attributes. You can’t have everything perfectly suited to your needs across all dimensions.

Would it be easier to use in a live setting if the switches were further apart? Sure. But for me, the fact that this unit is very small is important, and I’m willing to prioritize that.

Fully agree, they're just giving up a huge section of a ' potential market' when switches are 2" or so apart. I honestly can't think of anyone who'd gig with this, unless there was an external switching source or the person didn't sing at all (which of course is just fine!). . . Now I take all this back if there's a feature that locks out 2 button simultaneous switching, for gigs.

 

[Richard_G]

Just got a shipping notice for mine!

 

[2dor]

Just got a shipping notice for mine!

Awesooome!

Eager to read your take on it once you've had some time with it. I've been going back / forward on getting one but didn't pull the trigger yet because I don't play out for the time being.

You've probably seen the manual already; I do wonder how the FX loop thing is going to work and if the FX block order is going to stay fixed or allow some re-arranging.

 

[ACSlater]

Just got a shipping notice for mine!

You bought it in the first, 30-days, order period? I'm in the '45-days club' but luckily the QC, keeps me busy during the wait.

 

[JCW308]

Is there some way on the Stompstation Pro to set the expression pedal to volume AFTER the amp and IR but BEFORE the modulations, delays and reverbs?

 

[noizmsm]

can StompStation (not the pro) run two "nam converted" files? I'm thinking about buying it

 

[Richard_G]

You bought it in the first, 30-days, order period? I'm in the '45-days club' but luckily the QC, keeps me busy during the wait.

I believe I put in my order right around the time they changed it to 45 days, so early ‘45-days club’ member.

 

[MachineAgainstTheRage]

Is there some way on the Stompstation Pro to set the expression pedal to volume AFTER the amp and IR but BEFORE the modulations, delays and reverbs?

I've seen it can be attached to most parameters, if those include the amp or cab level it can be done.

 

[JCW308]

I've seen it can be attached to most parameters, if those include the amp or cab level it can be done.

Thanks, I need to have the same gain levels throughout the patch but need the mods and delays to keep going for volume swells. That's the reason for the volume pedal placement directly after the amp.

 

[noizmsm]

Here he shows the NAM profile of Soldano I assume the 50 watts version


Any owner of the Pro unit could share this nam please?

 

[2dor]

 

[riffy]

Here he shows the NAM profile of Soldano I assume the 50 watts version


Any owner of the Pro unit could share this nam please?

Nope.

 

[2dor]

New firmware added support for Input Calibration and Output Normalization.

LE: output calibration is coming in another update (useful for stacking profiles like Drive > Amp).

 

[BenIfin]

Not currently or going to be a NAM user, but am curious re: NAM Input Calibration

=> does it require the NAM profile to contain META Data ?

=> if so, what specific info does the META Data Contain ?

=> and what does this "allow" the Stomp Station Pro to auto-adjust-to ?

Am a bit confused - but curious to understand :)

 

[[Nathan]]

Not currently or going to be a NAM user, but am curious re: NAM Input Calibration

=> does it require the NAM profile to contain META Data ?

=> if so, what specific info does the META Data Contain ?

=> and what does this "allow" the Stomp Station Pro to auto-adjust-to ?

Am a bit confused - but curious to understand :)

Yes the nam file needs it in the metadata for this to work. If it’s not there it doesn’t offset any levels. It would probably just use the hardware level whatever that is (+8dBu, +12dBu etc). If you open a .nam file in a text editor you'll see a lot of metadata in there, here's one of mine trained on Tone3000 where I told it to use +13dBu

"name":"EVH-5153-Blue-G5","modeled_by":"ampspedalspickups","gear_type":"amp","gear_make":"tz-make","gear_model":"tz-model","tone_type":"overdrive","input_level_dbu":13,"output_level_dbu":null

If your hardware is set to say +12dBu and the NAM file is set to +15dBu then your hardware is hotter than the profile needs. You'd back the input level by 3db to compensate. If your hardware was +13dBu (my RME) and a profile was +8dBu then I'd need to gain up the level by 5db to match.

I'm not sure what level the stomp station is on the hardware but it would just be offsetting those numbers where it can read the metadata. If there's no metadata to read it will just use whatever the hardware is and then its up to the user to "use your ears bro".

 

[BenIfin]

Yes the nam file needs it in the metadata for this to work. If it’s not there it doesn’t offset any levels. It would probably just use the hardware level whatever that is (+8dBu, +12dBu etc). If you open a .nam file in a text editor you'll see a lot of metadata in there, here's one of mine trained on Tone3000 where I told it to use +13dBu

"name":"EVH-5153-Blue-G5","modeled_by":"ampspedalspickups","gear_type":"amp","gear_make":"tz-make","gear_model":"tz-model","tone_type":"overdrive","input_level_dbu":13,"output_level_dbu":null

If your hardware is set to say +12dBu and the NAM file is set to +15dBu then your hardware is hotter than the profile needs. You'd back the input level by 3db to compensate. If your hardware was +13dBu (my RME) and a profile was +8dBu then I'd need to gain up the level by 5db to match.

I'm not sure what level the stomp station is on the hardware but it would just be offsetting those numbers where it can read the metadata. If there's no metadata to read it will just use whatever the hardware is and then its up to the user to "use your ears bro".

I presume these adjustments need to be done manually (?)

 

[2dor]

I presume these adjustments need to be done manually (?)

No. If:

- the profile contains the metadata (the author bothered to type it in at training time)
- the hardware / software NAM player has support for parsing & working with this metadata

you, as the user don't need to do anything other than leave the "Input" gain at unity / 0 to start with assuming you're on a hardware platform.

If you're using the NAM Player plugin, you need to keep the gain at 0 / unity and type in your interface's "max input gain" value in the "Calibrate Input" box.

If you have a few minutes & want to see this in action, I have a vid on it:



This other one goes into properly chaining NAM profiles with calibration metadata:



The benefit is, with calibrated profiles & a unit / software that supports this metadata, you can scroll through profiles from various creators (reamped at different signal strenghts etc) and your user experience will be as close as plugging into the author's gear as possible.

 

[Richard_G]

Received mine today!

Didn’t have time to explore it properly, but I managed to update it to the latest firmware. I also loaded a @2dor NAM capture and a York IR, mainly to make sure everything was working. I got a bit sidetracked just playing, so I didn’t get any further.

It’s really compact. Here’s a photo with a Jazz III pick for size reference: