SG electronics fun.

[Eagle]

Well, I have a 500k volume and a Parrish treble bleed in my Strats, too.

There is no hope

 

[HomespunEffects]

There is no hope

Well, you’d be proud. I tried a 1M in there and thought I went too far and took it out.

 

[la szum]

Those PCBs need to die. Permanently.

I just don't get them apart from a mass-produced, increase efficiency, this is how we do it here,
fuck the end user template. Just seems so much better to gut it and start over---especially on a
guitar that is loved and will be used for a long time.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Those PCBs need to die. Permanently.

I just don't get them apart from a mass-produced, increase efficiency, this is how we do it here,
fuck the end user template. Just seems so much better to gut it and start over---especially on a
guitar that is loved and will be used for a long time.

The only reasons to have the PCB is if you have a pull switch on all 4 pots or you have a buffer built into the guitar. But otherwise, they belong in the same pit of hell as mosquitoes.

 

[EOengineer]

I’ve settled on 500k pots wired in 50s style with a Parrish style treble bleed.

I’m going to need to research the Parrish treble bleed. I’ve never heard of it. Seems interesting.

I know it’s often said that with 50s wiring you don’t need a treble bleed but I tried it anyway and now I find that I use the volume control more. I find the tone consistent all the way down until it cuts off.

Ive read that treble bleed on 4 knob Gibsons usually ruins the middle position but maybe that’s only when used with modern wiring? Do you use the middle position much?

Doesn’t 50s wiring implicitly give you a treble bleed because of the volume pot/cap position?

 

[HomespunEffects]

I’m going to need to research the Parrish treble bleed. I’ve never heard of it. Seems interesting.

It seems to be less intrusive. The volume just gets lower. With the plain parallel cap and resistor the lower you go the more screechy the high end gets. It’s better with the Kinman treble bleed but the pot taper gets weird. The Parrish treble bleed has the least compromises. It’s what’s in the Fender Telecaster more often.

Ive read that treble bleed on 4 knob Gibsons usually ruins the middle position but maybe that’s only when used with modern wiring? Do you use the middle position much?

I always use the middle position because i have the PG Blues wrong way wound neck pickup.

Doesn’t 50s wiring implicitly give you a treble bleed because of the volume pot/cap position?

Don’t know. If it does it doesn’t work well enough for me.

 

[EOengineer]

After sitting on it a bit, this PCB is gonna go. This guitar deserves a traditional 50s wiring from scratch, including stepping up to 500k volume pots.

I’m looking at the RS Guitarworks Super Pots for volume and CTS audio for tone, but am open to suggestion if anyone has a strong opinion. Seems like the big players are CTS, Bourns, Alpha - but I’m seeing Dunlop and some other bigger companies selling pots I’ve never used.

 

[Eagle]

Cts is the way to go and RS (cts) aren’t my choice for a few reasons . First is the friction on them is too much for any swelling and the taper is bias towards cleaner tones. The Dimarzio ( also cts) are low friction same features and a better taper and cheaper. Bourns and Alpha are not as durable but their most premium offerings are ok.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Cts is the way to go and RS (cts) aren’t my choice for a few reasons . First is the friction on them is too much for any swelling and the taper is bias towards cleaner tones. The Dimarzio ( also cts) are low friction same features and a better taper and cheaper.

Yeah, I replace everything with CTS.