SAG on Boss GT-1000

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I have a boss gt-1000 core and i´m using the BRIT STACK model. i got the sound how i wanted but I´m a bit confused on the sag control. I never owned a marshall amp so I dont know how should I put the sag. i´ve seen many turn it up and many turn it down, but never at 0. what setting should I put to get the most realistic feel out of it? thanks in advance!
 
I always kept the sag lower with crunchy amps and higher with clean amps. Maybe like 2 for a Marshall crunch and 7 for Deluxe Reverb clean. Seemed to work well.
 
Pretty much all Boss amps compress on their own (more than their analog counterparts), so the first thing I do with all of them is dragging Sag all the way down to -10.
 
How do people rate the Boss GT core with the competition? I have hardly played it . Say against the HX stomp? I think I would just go with the FM3 if I wanted compact but still.
 
How do people rate the Boss GT core with the competition? I have hardly played it . Say against the HX stomp? I think I would just go with the FM3 if I wanted compact but still.
Core holds up with the best of them. Check out Studio Rats reviews / videos.
 
Noisy, clunky to use and the amp modeling is not great imo. If form factor and ease of use is key; Stomp absolutely buries it.
 
GT-1000 modeling beats HX Stomp though for sure. And cabs.

Is this supposed to become comedy gold?

I mean, seriously, as pretty much everybody round these parts will know, I pretty much don't give a damn about authentic tones, but I think it's a fair thing to compare authentic sounds when it comes to the raw quality of whatever amp modeling. And regarding that, the GT has pretty much nothing on offer.
Now, if you are like me, you would rather look at the general sound qualities - but it partially falls short there as well, as in the amps compressing too much, hence at least altering your playing dynamics. You might now think of that as a positive thing, sometimes even I do. But usually I'm not. And unlike with other modelers, you can't dial that compression out. The HX amps however compress less but if you wanted, you could add some compression to them as well, such as by raising Sag or Master.

But then, as you're also mentioning the cabs, I'm by now sure it's sarcasm or so. Because there's not even a comparison.
 
To my ears, the HX amps have input compression. You can plug in the cheapest low output strat and it will still shred. You don't need to know about gain staging. If it is a metal amp, whatever you plug in will do metal.

This might be true for some amps, but especially for the newer additions, it defenitely isn't. They're excellent in representing/transporting different input signals.

The Boss models have what I consider to be "fake resonance" which is maybe what you are hearing as compression.

I am absolute aware of somewhat overrepresented frequencies (aka resonances) and compression. And I'm as well aware about how to tell one from the other.
 
The general consensus at TOP was that when the GT1000 released that it had better playing dynamics.. People were picking it over some of the fractal units of the time. So I'm just not sure how you came away thinking it has an excess of compression.

Good playing dynamics and compression aren't excluding each other. Add a post compressor to whatever you like and your amp tones still clean up extremely well. The tone is still compressing.

I'm sure you are hearing *something* you don't like, but I'm not sure you use the same label as everyone else does for that thing you are hearing.

I am absolutely sure. Maybe I'll measure it one day.

Besides, I don't give a flying f*** what whomever at TOP is saying about the unit.
 
Its possible you have stockholm syndrome from using the HX amps so long.

I have hardly been using them much for the last 3 years. I only revived them with my new board.

The way they handle input gain staging isn't realistic, but in some ways it is better than reality.

You seem to have no idea.

And now please stop with your online analysis of what I may or may not fall for. It's embarassing. Thank you.
 
Pretty much all Boss amps compress on their own (more than their analog counterparts), so the first thing I do with all of them is dragging Sag all the way down to -10.
i have done that, but i noticed that the (sub?) bass frequencies get all over the place if I do that in some amps (like the Rectifier)
 
i have done that, but i noticed that the (sub?) bass frequencies get all over the place if I do that in some amps (like the Rectifier)

Didn't notice, but I really only use 1-2 of the internal amps (Natural and X-Crunch). Don't think I'll ever be using something else.
 
i dont mind the x-amps, but they sometimes get too "detailed". i actually like the feel of the normal amps better.
 
i dont mind the x-amps, but they sometimes get too "detailed". i actually like the feel of the normal amps better.

I might give them another try. In fact, on the GT-10, I still sort of like their MS I+II incarnations once running through an external IR loader, but they seemed to have changed the Marshall model for the worse.
 
you can get a great clean marshall sound with the brit stack, if you lower the gain and increase the level. i always use IRs as well. I use those Reflex IRs by ML Sound Lab
 
Compression and poor dynamics are the problem with most modellers. More than the sound. Also amplifying them with shitty class D $2 power amps.
Fr fr is also just never going to feel like a tube amp to play . Unless you go LXII and F12x200 and even then it’s still different.
 
Compression and poor dynamics are the problem with most modellers. More than the sound. Also amplifying them with shitty class D $2 power amps.
Fr fr is also just never going to feel like a tube amp to play . Unless you go LXII and F12x200 and even then it’s still different.
i use the Fender FR-12. Feels good playing with it
 
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