Quad Cortex Mini

[SeeD]

I'm not exactly sure what your point is, genuinely. Products time to evolve and develop. Axe FX 2 wasn't perfect on launch. The FM3 was fairly fucked on launch as I recall, with a whole slew of them having a completely unusable headphone function. They blew those out on the cheap to people who didn't care about that functionality. Helix Floor was missing a lot of stuff on launch. So was Kemper. Stadium doesn't have everything it needs either.

I think the first year of the Axe Fx II the Axe Edit got a from ground up re wright, and the last few years i owned it Axe Edit crashed a lot, I did not use it much when recording. This was after the Axe Fx III got out. But it got fixed after a long time. Re-amping did not work as it should on my Axe FX II. Never got any word of help with it from FAS.

Head Phone on the FM3...
Audio driver on the FM3...

Axe Fx III Audio driver drifting...

 

[SillyOctpuss]

hahaha you old bastid.

We're going to get so much use out of that. You can use it to respond to anything

 

[Desertdweller]

Here’s one question for you guys, how do you set it up to get true stereo to the XLR outputs with a cab block, but send to output 3/4 without a cab? The stereo IR block allows for 2 IRs, but they can only pan 50% left and right for some bizarre reason.

In the Axe FX, you’d put the cab block last in the chain, make sure it is in stereo with the IRs panned hard left and hard right feeding output 1, then you’d break off a second line right before the cab block and feed that, sans cab block, to output 3.

The Nano Cortex method seems magical, because in the Nano Cortex you simply turned off the IR on output 2 and it ran your full effects with the cab block to output 1 and not to output 2. Easy, simple, done.

In the QC Mini, I can set a line to have IRs off, but I have to put the IR/Cab block on that line. In practice, I could probably set it up similarly to the Axe FX method with the extra line feeding Output 3/4, but it only allows the stereo IR blocks to go 50% left and right, not hard panned, so I can’t get true stereo effects if I put the cab block last.

I’m wondering if anyone has a specific trick they use to be able to feed a power amp and guitar cab with output 3/4 and send XLR to house with Output 1/2.

 

[Orvillain]

Here’s one question for you guys, how do you set it up to get true stereo to the XLR outputs with a cab block, but send to output 3/4 without a cab? The stereo IR block allows for 2 IRs, but they can only pan 50% left and right for some bizarre reason.

In the Axe FX, you’d put the cab block last in the chain, make sure it is in stereo with the IRs panned hard left and hard right feeding output 1, then you’d break off a second line right before the cab block and feed that, sans cab block, to output 3.

The Nano Cortex method seems magical, because in the Nano Cortex you simply turned off the IR on output 2 and it ran your full effects with the cab block to output 1 and not to output 2. Easy, simple, done.

In the QC Mini, I can set a line to have IRs off, but I have to put the IR/Cab block on that line. In practice, I could probably set it up similarly to the Axe FX method with the extra line feeding Output 3/4, but it only allows the stereo IR blocks to go 50% left and right, not hard panned, so I can’t get true stereo effects if I put the cab block last.

I’m wondering if anyone has a specific trick they use to be able to feed a power amp and guitar cab with output 3/4 and send XLR to house with Output 1/2.

On big QC, I'd do it exactly the same way as on the Axe FX ???? 1 line. Split to a second line. Choose the outputs for each signal I want to go to them ????

 

[RiffDuck]

I have a suspicion that NDSP pretty much owns a certain demographic. Perhaps close to all the neck-tattooed ones, but also a very strong following among young guitarists in general.

Ah yes, the "keeps getting caught miming impossible riffs on Instagram" demo

 

[Desertdweller]

On big QC, I'd do it exactly the same way as on the Axe FX ???? 1 line. Split to a second line. Choose the outputs for each signal I want to go to them ????

Right but it’s the order of operations that kills me if I want to maintain a true stereo signal to the XLR output. The IRs only being able to be panned 50% left or right is a VERY odd choice in the QC.

Option 1: I run a mono IR block right after the amp block, then effects after. I get true stereo effects but I have no cabless output.
Option 2: I run a stereo IR block after all my effects, with a send to line 4 before the cab block. Line 4 outputs to Output 3/4. I get my split I want, but I sacrifice true stereo as my effects now route through a stereo IR block that only allows IRs panned 50% left or right. This 50% is odd, how do I get around it?

 

[Orvillain]

The IRs only being able to be panned 50% left or right is a VERY odd choice in the QC.

50L is 100% left, and 50R is 100% right.

 

[Orvillain]

@Desertdweller

Or with a cab block:

This is how I would route an amp to output 3/4 with no IR, and to output 1/2 with an IR or cab block. Stereo maintained.

 

[Desertdweller]

50L is 100% left, and 50R is 100% right.

Is it really? I’ll have to check that out then.

 

[Desertdweller]

@Desertdweller

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Or with a cab block:
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This is how I would route an amp to output 3/4 with no IR, and to output 1/2 with an IR or cab block. Stereo maintained.

Yes I get this part of it, but making sure I have stereo effects like delay, reverb, etc still going to both outputs is the main issue. If the 50L and 50R are truly 100% panned, that solves the problem. I’ll have to check it later.

 

[Orvillain]

Is it really? I’ll have to check that out then.

Yes. The same way in some daws you'll see 100, 64, 50, for the pan controls. It's just a labelling convention.

 

[dean701]

Yes. The same way in some daws you'll see 100, 64, 50, for the pan controls. It's just a labelling convention.

can you add a stereo IR block after the amp on line 1 with no IR chosen to get the stereo image?

 

[Desertdweller]

can you add a stereo IR block after the amp on line 1 with no IR chosen to get the stereo image?

Wouldn’t you just rely on stereo effects to widen to stereo?

 

[Orvillain]

Er... I'm not the one making the request brah.

 

[Desertdweller]

Well that didn't take long to generate the wildest preset I could. I had to put it through it's paces and see what it could do. I wound up with a bit of an overboard, but very usable preset.

Wah triggered by expression pedal, 5 amps, 2 gates, 1 chorus, a stompbox -2 transpose that sticks through scene changes, 2 delays, 3 reverbs, and 3 stereo IRs. IRs go to XLR, no IRs on out 3/4 so I can send to a power amp and cab. 8 scenes and 4 stompboxes.

61% CPU usage on this preset. Though I think 60% CPU is like 80% CPU in Fractal land as it shut off the ability to use global EQ when I crossed the 60% CPU threshold.

It's interesting it is showing a couple of my amp captures as amp blocks. I'm using V1 captures of amps for the first 3 blocks after the wah but it's only showing one of them as captures, and shows the other 2 as amp blocks even though they're captures. IDK why, but it doesn't really matter.

Really happy with this unit so far. It has it's quirks, but the tone is insane.

 

[dean701]

@Desertdweller

I had to refresh my memory of the icons after looking at your layout. I think your amp captures are using the 'amp capture' icon. Unclear as to why they wouldn't all be the same icon.

 

[GTR37]

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Well that didn't take long to generate the wildest preset I could. I had to put it through it's paces and see what it could do. I wound up with a bit of an overboard, but very usable preset.

Wah triggered by expression pedal, 5 amps, 2 gates, 1 chorus, a stompbox -2 transpose that sticks through scene changes, 2 delays, 3 reverbs, and 3 stereo IRs. IRs go to XLR, no IRs on out 3/4 so I can send to a power amp and cab. 8 scenes and 4 stompboxes.

61% CPU usage on this preset. Though I think 60% CPU is like 80% CPU in Fractal land as it shut off the ability to use global EQ when I crossed the 60% CPU threshold.

It's interesting it is showing a couple of my amp captures as amp blocks. I'm using V1 captures of amps for the first 3 blocks after the wah but it's only showing one of them as captures, and shows the other 2 as amp blocks even though they're captures. IDK why, but it doesn't really matter.

Really happy with this unit so far. It has it's quirks, but the tone is insane.

That pretty heavy so is that 2 amp capture and 2 onboard models
Honestly if someone needs more than that I don’t know what to say, I think you can got to 80 or 85% cpu,
The global EQ is a hog
It’s takes like half the CPU which to me seems very odd
But in you patch I bet you could still fit couple of eqs , volume pedal , trem, flanger etc

 

[Desertdweller]

That pretty heavy so is that 2 amp capture and 2 onboard models
Honestly if someone needs more than that I don’t know what to say, I think you can got to 80 or 85% cpu,
The global EQ is a hog
It’s takes like half the CPU which to me seems very odd
But in you patch I bet you could still fit couple of eqs , volume pedal , trem, flanger etc

Yeah this patch is way more than I need for sure. I was just pushing for the maximum I would put in a preset and still be usable. Whenever I've played live or jammed with people it's usually a clean tone, heavy tone, and lead tone, and I'm set.

 

[Desertdweller]

That pretty heavy so is that 2 amp capture and 2 onboard models

3 amp captures and two models. But it's only showing the 2nd amp capture as a "Neural Capture." See how it has the little circle in the bottom left of the amp model icons though? I think it's denoting they're neural captures, but I don't know why the 2nd one would look different than the 1st and 3rd. Quirky for sure.

 

[GTR37]

3 amp captures and two models. But it's only showing the 2nd amp capture as a "Neural Capture." See how it has the little circle in the bottom left of the amp model icons though? I think it's denoting they're neural captures, but I don't know why the 2nd one would look different than the 1st and 3rd. Quirky for sure.

hmm and they are all V1 captures?
are they all your own captures or from the cloud , only thing I could think of is the one with just the capture icons is older. they did not start with the capture icons in the bottom left until later as people wanted to know which was which originally I think it was just that white capture icon