Quad Cortex Mini

[mbenigni]

On the device is what I meant. Lots of people only do that with an editor.

Let me show you on the doll where sitting at a PC with a mouse and keyboard touched me...

For 40 hours a week...

For nearly my entire life...

 

[Sedaxel]

And yes, with the example you cite, I do block moves with an editor no matter what the on-device interface has, because I don't want to hunch over the unit or clear desk space for it every time I want to do that kind of thing.

Of course. And I´ve used fantastic UIs with no touchscreen (Helix for the win).

Obviously, each user will have a different experience, use case, and preference. For me, and aparently for the industry, touchscreens are more convenient and they are being more and more present. In a few years, it´ll be really difficult to buy a modeler with no touchscreen (at least in the mid-hi tier segment).

We´ve heard all of this when mobile phones started to have touchscreens. The end of the story is well known.

 

[ChordInversion]

Let me show you on the doll where sitting at a PC with a mouse and keyboard touched me...

I use touchpads. Makes all the difference.

I also know that my "batch patch/scene creation, then just plug in to play" approach is far from universal.

I absolutely fell in love with my AM4 pretty much immediately, so you can see where my preferences lie.

 

[mbenigni]

I use touchpads. Makes all the difference.

Indeed - makes it far, far worse.

I also know that my "batch patch/scene creation, then just plug in to play" approach is far from universal.

I absolutely fell in love with my AM4 pretty much immediately, so you can see where my preferences lie.

Yeah, if you're a consistent template/ fixed signal chain kind of guy, that tracks.

 

[Whizzinby]

I defenitely disagree again. When I'm editing, I usually have a guitar in my hands (and whenever possible, I hold a note or a chord as well), so two-handed editing isn't the greatest thing ever. Lotsa encoders with easy block selection however are just that, for me at least. Closest to hardware unit operation

So you use one hand to tap the parameter and then turn the encoder.

This shit ain’t hard bro.

 

[Sascha Franck]

So you use one hand to tap the parameter and then make the adjust on the encoder.

More encoders = less taps. As easy as that.

This shit ain’t hard bro.

Said so lotsa times already: It's never about things being hard. It's about things going fast. And more encoders = better editing speed.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

So you use one hand to tap the parameter and then turn the encoder.

This shit ain’t hard bro.

Thats far too much for Sascha, and for this reason alone, he is now out of contention for buying the modeller in question.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Thats far too much for Sascha

You can stick those snarky comments elsewhere, seriously.
If it was all about things "not being hard", each modeler would come with one single encoder. I'm sure you'd enjoy creating complexed patches on that big time.

 

[ChordInversion]

Yeah, if you're a consistent template/ fixed signal chain kind of guy, that tracks.

Once I have made a preset/scenes, I just use them until a problem emerges, which is rare. Really it's more like once every 3 months when I just sit down to dial in a bunch of new sounds/chains to enjoy, or to duplicate/modify presets to dial them in with different guitars. I am not one who likes looking straight down and tapping at at a little device on my desk.

I also have a bunch of Source Audio pedals, and I never use the phone editor, dialing in all my sounds in batches on a nice big monitor where I can see what I'm doing and keep my head up.

 

[Whizzinby]

Thats far too much for Sascha, and for this reason alone, he is now out of contention for buying the modeller in question.

 

[Whizzinby]

Or I can just keep doing what I'm doing, which is using modelers without touch screens, because that's what I like, and I'm not hurting anyone, so what the hell do you care?

Neither of us use a modeler with a touchscreen.

 

[SeeD]

Yeah but they never said they'd give them to you.

I know it seems like I'm being flippant and contrarian, and maybe I am. But it is entirely possible that the main usage of TINA over the last year was to get them to v2.0 captures.

Yes that could be. But we users also got thousands of captures for free?
I get that some folk are all hangd up on the missing stuff, but for myself, I`m all over it by this point.

But there was a time were I got a bit mad about stuff. But the unit is good in my book by now, lots of cool thing inside the box

 

[DrewJD82]

Lowest common denominator... It's hard not to take a little bit of offense at this, man. I don't buy a whole lot of Big Gulps. It's not like a QC or a QCM (or an FM3 for that matter) is a Faberge egg or some shit. The products do actually perform functions, in addition to looking cool.

Not a big deal, just a counterpoint of sorts.

I actually re-wrote that line about 10x because of the offensive factor, but after seeing numerous “I didn’t know I needed this, but take my money”, like I said, my bias was confirmed. Obviously not everyone who buys it will be a lowest common denominator type, but NDSP has been remarkably consistent at making things look good while worrying about functionality after the fact and I don’t believe that’s an oopsie on their end, especially after knowing it works.

 

[Dez]

I actually re-wrote that line about 10x because of the offensive factor, but after seeing numerous “I didn’t know I needed this, but take my money”, like I said, my bias was confirmed. Obviously not everyone who buys it will be a lowest common denominator type, but NDSP has been remarkably consistent at making things look good while worrying about functionality after the fact and I don’t believe that’s an oopsie on their end, especially after knowing it works.

What’s the lowest common denominator?

 

[Sascha Franck]

What’s the lowest common denominator?

Not me. I'm rather the greatest common divisor.

 

[Melodioso]

I didn't read the whole thread but what a fantastic product!

That's exactly what I expected the Nano to be, but with the Nano price tag For $200 difference between the QC, it might be a tough sell.

 

[Dez]

I didn't read the whole thread but what a fantastic product!

That's exactly what I expected the Nano to be, but with the Nano price tag For $200 difference between the QC, it might be a tough sell.

$400 difference but I hear you lol

 

[Sascha Franck]

$400 difference but I hear you lol

It's actually €300 over here.

 

[Dez]

It's actually €300 over here.

So this price includes taxes? I think I remember that in Europe you have to show the total whereas here they love to add it in the cart lol. This equals $1555, and I paid $1486 total from Sweetwater.

 

[Sascha Franck]

So this price includes taxes?

Yes. It's €1.299 at Thomann Germany, hence $1.525,55. So things are even cheaper over there (as usual, *sigh*).