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Doing things right just means "how close did we get to the design brief/product requirements document?" - and that is not something a user can answer.
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Like I said, I follow all the rest of your reasoning here. It's just this one phrase I'm at odds with:
"...while not having to put any additional effort into their day to day..."
This product release clearly represents a lot of effort. More than I was aware they were putting in, certainly. "Cramming the OS" into a new box is a massive oversimplification.
As to whether it serves their customer base? It clearly serves somebody, as evidenced by its having sold out in a couple of hours. And whether the zero-sum opportunity cost of their working on it is another instance of NDSP screwing their existing QC customer base... I think (I would hope) by this point, if anyone still owns a QC it's because they like it, and they don't feel particularly screwed either way.
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Unless you’re a stockholder I don’t know why you’d give a shit what “sold out” means other than “people like it”.
Same with the price being close’ish to the QC. Since when did anyone here give a shit about threatening QC sales?
Again, I think the fact that they built to the form factor, not a price point, is what’s badass. The “let’s increasingly bonk successively smaller versions to hit every $200 price bracket on the way down the pipe” is cool to hit a variety of players in different price brackets, but it’s also cool when a company says “fuck that, let’s build cool shit”. You can have a badass small version or a badass medium version.
Neural is on their game with this one.
Same with the price being close’ish to the QC. Since when did anyone here give a shit about threatening QC sales?
Again, I think the fact that they built to the form factor, not a price point, is what’s badass. The “let’s increasingly bonk successively smaller versions to hit every $200 price bracket on the way down the pipe” is cool to hit a variety of players in different price brackets, but it’s also cool when a company says “fuck that, let’s build cool shit”. You can have a badass small version or a badass medium version.
Neural is on their game with this one.
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It’s not the be all and end all but it’s a good indicator that they understand what a guitarist wants.
if a company brings out products and people keep buying those products, it’s pretty easy to put two and two together that they know what they’re doing. I used the words “doing things right”, it’s just vernacular not a mission statement.
Not every player ever will like their stuff, some will despise it. But if they are a top seller that tells you that a large part of the market likes what they are selling.
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I don't want to be dragged into forum mudslinging, but, either way you want to measure it: no, it's not "40% of the size". I'll leave it at that.
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Hey now... let's not say things we cannot take back.
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I didn’t wanna butt into you guys’ conversation but I’ve seen one band use a laptop and interface as their main guitar rig. One band sounded like total garbage to me (he was using NDSP Fortin NTS); that was waaaay back though. And Boudoir did say no one “in their right mind” so he might be right.
Regarding the "nobody asked this" subject... I wouldn´t be so sure of that. I remember reading somewhere that the cramped footswitchews were a "meh" for someone and, if that was to be the case, he would prefer a much smaller unit with no switches, in order to use a controller.
And I also remember having that conversation with my buddy, who told me that many users were racking it and using a controller.
Actually... if I was in the market for a multieffects, in this moment I would chose the Mini over any other unit. That´s because I like NDSP more than the rest, but would have a hard time trying to use those footswitches. Spending 300-400€ more for a not-so-useful feature for me, along with the much smaller size of the Mini, would be enough for me to chose it.
And I also remember having that conversation with my buddy, who told me that many users were racking it and using a controller.
Actually... if I was in the market for a multieffects, in this moment I would chose the Mini over any other unit. That´s because I like NDSP more than the rest, but would have a hard time trying to use those footswitches. Spending 300-400€ more for a not-so-useful feature for me, along with the much smaller size of the Mini, would be enough for me to chose it.
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Me making this thread
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Thing is, my core sounds would be exactly the same as what they are right now. I switched to Tonex Ones for my amp duties on both of my live boards, so the same sounds I'm now happy with would be there in a laptop based setup as well.
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I didn't want to bring it up before because it's really me
For example, having no stereo inputs makes a lot of sense for a multi-fx floor unit, but not for something you chuck on your pedalboard. The venerable Stomp understood this well almost 10 years ago now.
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And I know a band that uses TWO DESPTOP PCs with Helix Native in both, and a quite complex system based on relays and UPSs to seamlessly keep on playing should something happened to the main PC. They use it for guitar a bass, with all the effects changes pre-programmed via MIDI through Reaper.I didn’t wanna butt into you guys’ conversation but I’ve seen one band use a laptop and interface as their main guitar rig. One band sounded like total garbage to me (he was using NDSP Fortin NTS); that was waaaay back though. And Boudoir did say no one “in their right mind” so he might be right.
Crazy.
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Again, I'm not debating the internal logic of your assertion. I am about as neutral on Neural as a person can be, having never even been tempted to try their stuff, but also having not developed a negative opinion of it. A friend uses a QC as his entire rig - he has no other gear at all but guitars and a powered speaker. I'm simply noting the reality that it may not reflect how everyone thinks of the term you're using, and that's the source of the conflict.
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They would've had this in the pipeline even back when QC originally launched is my guess. They're following a roadmap and a vision, which we don't get to see. So their decision making seems weird, but I'm going to assume they know what they are doing.
Out of interest - what is still outstanding as far as what they promised - or at least talked about in order to get people to pre-order - for the QC nowadays?? I genuinely don't know. Haven't really been keeping track. Is it just the final plugins or something else ???
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I'll bet we can come up with like 5 other definitions of "doing things right." I'm not disagreeing with your definition. I'm simply pointing out that the term is variable, and therefore a perfect nexus for an interminable Internet argument.
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Most of their plugins still don't run on the QC, and i reckon a bunch of amp models listed in the pre-order blurb never materialized. They were supposed to have TINA™ churning those non-stop.
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